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1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« on: June 02, 2019, 08:24:03 PM »
While at the Ford nationals in Carlisle Pennsylvania this past Friday and Saturday I spied this 1966 Shelby Hertz that was already sold. The opening day is Friday and upon arriving to do some parts hunting, I found this cool barn find. While attending the car show on Saturday, I noticed it was moved to a different location and I snapped a few pics for the members enjoyment. Very odd that the driver side firewall was not stamped yet had a Ford stencil on the apron? It didn’t look to have been replaced. Pics coming...Enjoy!!
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2019, 08:37:10 PM »
Here they are..
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2019, 08:40:22 PM »
more..
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2019, 08:45:34 PM »
Looks like the car bret at capecodemustang just put up for sale. 6S1901

Interesting hood change and that drivers side forward inner appears to be a service replacement. Notice no Ford VIN and no holes for the Shelby tag where they typically would be located. This may have been why they changed the hood - the original may not have lived through the accident. Looks like the DS fender bolts are possibly aftermarket also.

Thanks for sharing
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2019, 08:54:36 PM »
What I was thinking but I'll leave it to the pros. The hood was a 67' style scoop. It still retained the correct Autolite carb, tach, and rear but of course unsure of the dates... Here is an interior pic. It was quite moldy..
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2019, 09:25:34 PM »
I enjoyed seeing this car.  I suspect it would be a big project to restore, but I would sure be tempted to clean it up and get the mechanicals up to snuff and drive it "as is".  Every Mustang guy who saw you driving it around would run you down to try to buy it (cheap).
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2019, 11:46:59 PM »
Quote from: rockhouse66 on June 02, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
Every Mustang guy who saw you driving it around would run you down to try to buy it (cheap).

Yea not what I would like spending my time doing - dealing with all the stalkers and their $8000 offers and them getting pis**d off when you turn them down.   ::)

Understand it needs floors so leaving as is  and using the car might be a challenge or at least might lead to a Flintstone moment or two  :o
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2019, 11:56:16 PM »
Quote from: Hipo giddyup on June 02, 2019, 08:24:03 PM
While at the Ford nationals in Carlisle Pennsylvania this past Friday and Saturday I spied this 1966 Shelby Hertz that was already sold. The opening day is Friday and upon arriving to do some parts hunting, I found this cool barn find. While attending the car show on Saturday, I noticed it was moved to a different location and I snapped a few pics for the members enjoyment. Very odd that the driver side firewall was not stamped yet had a Ford stencil on the apron? It didn’t look to have been replaced. Pics coming...Enjoy!!
Emery of Central Maine Mustangs was taking it home for buyer Bret Masterson. That was emery's spot the car was in on Saturday. Many lobsters gave up their lives on that very spot the car was parked Saturday on Thursday night when we had our annual Lobster fest. Emery brought up 65 fresh caught Wednesday night  1 1/2 -2 lb lobsters to boil and eat.  Replacement apron didn't have hole cut for hood bumpers yet or Ford VIN stamped where it needed to be. A apron replacement can be disguised if a good body man that understands the importance of proper spot welds etc. does the work . disregarding the missing Ford VIN ,not doing the bumper holes before installation and leaving the stencil was a miscalculation IMO. In this context the stencil is less cool because it gives away the fact that it is a replacement. It did have holes where the Shelby tag should go but the tag was not on the car. I didn't pay much attention after the sold sign was posted on Friday given there were many parts to be found and bought in other spaces. ;D
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 09:28:55 AM »
Curious what will happen about that missing VIN. Some states require the State Police to be involved to restamp in order to title it,etc.. Let's just say the stamping is not close to original whether it will get covered by a Shelby tag or not. LOL  I think some states have placed additional tags in other parts of the car, like door jambs?  I hope that's not the case, that would suck on such a prized car.
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1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 02:45:08 PM »
Quote from: Hipo giddyup on June 03, 2019, 09:28:55 AM
Curious what will happen about that missing VIN. Some states require the State Police to be involved to restamp in order to title it,etc.. Let's just say the stamping is not close to original whether it will get covered by a Shelby tag or not. LOL  I think some states have placed additional tags in other parts of the car, like door jambs?  I hope that's not the case, that would suck on such a prized car.

Often comes down to the DMV worker (they often are very strict and unbending) and how it is presented. Often states will allow a police officer to confirm hidden VINs like the other two (in the case of a 66) VINs.  Been involved in helping with a number of such cars both from the owner and state side of the process and IMHO it only takes a comment or action to change where the process will go - for the good or the bad
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 12:23:10 PM »
Quote from: J_Speegle on June 02, 2019, 11:46:59 PM
Yea not what I would like spending my time doing - dealing with all the stalkers and their $8000 offers and them getting pis**d off when you turn them down.   ::)

Understand it needs floors so leaving as is  and using the car might be a challenge or at least might lead to a Flintstone moment or two  :o

Haha, Jeff. Exactly about those stalkers and there ridiculous offers. 
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2019, 10:58:38 AM »
If it's a Shelby it should not have an Autolite carburetor so no way that would be correct. Looks like it was hit in the front and repaired back in the day. Still cool!


Quote from: Hipo giddyup on June 02, 2019, 08:54:36 PM
What I was thinking but I'll leave it to the pros. The hood was a 67' style scoop. It still retained the correct Autolite carb, tach, and rear but of course unsure of the dates... Here is an interior pic. It was quite moldy..
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2019, 12:49:28 PM »
Quote from: RoyceP on July 06, 2019, 10:58:38 AM
If it's a Shelby it should not have an Autolite carburetor so no way that would be correct. Looks like it was hit in the front and repaired back in the day. Still cool!
You are misinformed . It was typical for the automatic Shelby to have the Ford carb through the majority of 66 production.There are Ford to Shelby memos describing the transition to the Ford carb in early 66 production.   
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2019, 06:15:27 PM »
Interesting - I learn something every day! Thanks Bob.

Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 06, 2019, 12:49:28 PM
You are misinformed . It was typical for the automatic Shelby to have the Ford carb through the majority of 66 production.There are Ford to Shelby memos describing the transition to the Ford carb in early 66 production.
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Re: 1966 Shelby Hertz barn find
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2019, 06:57:56 PM »
Quote from: RoyceP on July 06, 2019, 06:15:27 PM
Interesting - I learn something every day! Thanks Bob.
Your welcome. I am glad you took it as a helpful learning post like it was intended.  Always glad to help dispel the urban myths around the Shelby's. There are many more that are out there. 
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