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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: MannyManz on April 06, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
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My vin is 5F08F181831 it's suppose to be a 260 engine v8 and I have a straight 6 with 4 lug all around. I am doing a vin verification with the police dept now in NY. I redid the floors and the door has no door tag. The vin on the driver side is very rusty and rotted away and I can only see the 1813 in the vin but the passenger side I can read the whole vin. But I decoded it and I have all 64-1/2 front end and interior and doors but I am like why does this have a straight 6 4 lug all around. I need help. Any info?
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Here is the other vin
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Ugh
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It's possible that everything could have been swapped. As strange as it may sound, I have heard of V8's being replaced with I6 engines. Obviously not the norm, but it has happened.
Might be some clues to look for on the body to ID some V8 parts like suspension. I noticed there is no seal on the radiator support. Those were typically installed on 6 cyl cars, stapled on.
You could also look for date codes on the 6 cyl parts to see if they coincide with when the car was made.
My guess is the I6 parts were swapped in.
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You have horns mounted on the radiator support rather than inside the engine bay, what do your battery vents look like on your radiator support, there is a difference between 64 1/2 and 65.
Another check on top of what Charles's has mentioned with the date codes.
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I don't know 6cyl but did a 64.5 6cyl have the engine painted blue ?
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I don't know 6cyl but did a 64.5 6cyl have the engine painted blue ?
From memory they were black with red rocker cover and air cleaner (U code), hopefully I've remembered correctly, picturing Bob Fria's coupe.
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From memory they were black with red rocker cover and air cleaner (U code), hopefully I've remembered correctly, picturing Bob Fria's coupe.
I thought that might support a 6cyl being transplanted into the 64.5 since one in picture is blue.
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It's a 64-1/2 I had the police verify the vin and nothing came up so it's clean. The hood has holes underneath and there are find by the battery. There is an A on the vent knob. The bumpers for the hood stop have a hole for a screw. It's a red and black engine. That date was red not blue. Um I'm going to check the engine numbers tmw.
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The bezel has gen not alt on it also.
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Front bucket lights are not angled
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Is it possible the front half of the car was welded onto the back of a different car? Maybe the original back half of the car was totaled and someone cut off the front half and welded to a car that was smashed in the front? Just throwing that out there...
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I have no door tag so it's hard to get any other info on the car. I know my dad had 2 sets of interior red on red and black on black then I look inside the door it's blue and red over it with black over it. I bought new doors because someone cut out holes for speakers. The old floor was bad but didn't have cut outs on the seat purch. Tell me more is you can anyone. I think the front end was changed out cause the rear trunk lid is a 65 and I have to pull off the rear pixels to see if there is a channel Ugh this car
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Pics
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My vin is 5F08F181831 it's suppose to be a 260 engine v8 and I have a straight 6 with 4 lug all around. I am doing a vin verification with the police dept now in NY. I redid the floors and the door has no door tag. The vin on the driver side is very rusty and rotted away and I can only see the 1813 in the vin
I cannot tell from your pictures and maybe it was a typo, but you do not have 1813 consecutively in the full vin you gave. So if the rusted pictured does show 1813, it's not the same vin.
Allen
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I had that correct vin and the hood is a 64-1/2 as well
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Manny just to be clear, you say the vin is 5F08F181831 but that the rusted vin shows 1813. This is what I am questioning. Does the rusted vin show 1831 or 1813?
Thanks,
Allen
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The vin is 5F08F181831 the rusty vin on the driver side is 81831 you can see it on the pictures I have posted. so the rusty side is matching what it has besides the rest of the numbers that are rusted off. I found a parts car with a 302 engine with the 5 lug all around and rear. I am going to take apart and sandblast some items and paint them up and sell the 6 cylinder engine. I will have on craigslist shortly to make some money to put back into this car.
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I have redone this air cleaner but I'll sell the engine like this when I'm done
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As strange as it may sound, I have heard of V8's being replaced with I6 engines.
That's precisely what happened to my '68. The previous owner had a 35-mile [each way] commute, so he took out the S-code 390 and put in a 200 six. He swapped the front springs and put taller gears in the rear end too. I was able to get the original springs, differential and driveshaft from him, but the motor was long gone and I was not able to track it down.
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Your 200 6 looks real nice! What is that capacitor looking thing on the valve cover btwn cyls 3 and 4?
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Just the air leaner is mine. I said that the engine will soon look like this before I sell it
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Your 200 6 looks real nice! What is that capacitor looking thing on the valve cover btwn cyls 3 and 4?
it is a ballast resistor. it would not be needed on a stock application.
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Seen them on Mopars...
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Your 200 6 looks real nice! What is that capacitor looking thing on the valve cover btwn cyls 3 and 4?
Yes, as others have indicated it is a resistor (like found on Mopars)
The "points" ignition systems on many late 50's thru the 60's, even later till electronic systems took over, all originated as 6-volt systems and when cars became 12-volt, a form of resistor was used to convert the voltage. Ford typically used a "resistor wire" built into the underdash harness. My guess is the engine in the photo was to be used in a less than concours example, possibly a re-wired car.
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I would start documenting date codes on the sheet metal and anything else on the car that has a date code and/or part number. That info may help shed some light on the story behind the car.
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Wouldn't a 64.5 have a 170 CI motor instead of the 200 CI?
Drain holes in the trunk drop offs were different, the door jamb switches had little plastic pads on the door.
And of course there are numerous dates codes all over the car as mentioned.
Their are a hundred things different about the early cars besides the obvious ones.
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This 64.5 is coded 260 v8 engine and I have a 6 cyl with 4 lug. Trying to figure it out. I guess it just got swapped out. I am rebuilding a 302 motor and pulling this 6cyl out and selling it. I will post pics when finished. I just put the interior in just to see what it would look like. Looks nice