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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: Ralf on February 08, 2016, 09:23:42 AM

Title: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: Ralf on February 08, 2016, 09:23:42 AM: Hello, I'm about to re-paint my oilpan in blue. Now I'm looking for the most matching colorcode for my (early) 1967 (30L = Nov. 1966)
Some say Duplicolor #1606 (described as FORD Corporate Blue) same as engine color. Is that correct, or are there other matching color codes possible, such as FORD dark blue?
Pan repros are mostly in that color sold (Scott Drake.....)
Does anyone has a "concours" recommandation? Would be great to receive your feedback.

To show up the difference.

This is mine:

http://1.1.1.2/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img2015081415uzv0blxdng.png (http://1.1.1.2/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img2015081415uzv0blxdng.png)

Thats what I found (Scott Drake) dark blue:

http://1.1.1.5/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/motoroelwanneb21jn6uz7go.jpg (http://1.1.1.5/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/motoroelwanneb21jn6uz7go.jpg)

Another one in lighter blue (don't know the color):

http://1.1.1.4/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/imagephpufrmgqwk92.jpg (http://1.1.1.4/bmi/img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/imagephpufrmgqwk92.jpg)

If Scott Drake fits in colour, I had in mind to buy it. However, don't know the quality of the part....

Thanks for your feedback.
Ralf
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: ruppstang on February 08, 2016, 11:32:52 AM: For a rattle can 1606 Duplicolor is close. There is a PPG mix that is better quality.
BTW you picture did not show up.
Marty
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: Ralf on February 08, 2016, 12:53:25 PM: Probably my fault.
Here are the pictures directly.

Mine
(http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img2015081415c89tub4vni.png) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Scott Drake "dark blue":
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/motoroelwannebksw95362eg.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Lighter Blue:

(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/imagephpgac0782to5.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: J_Speegle on February 08, 2016, 05:17:46 PM: First the oil pan and mounting hardware was painted as part of the full engine assembly. so all the mounting hardware and gasket are painted

Sounds like your either trying to match the color you already have on the rest of the engine or what was there originally. The second choice will likely not match the rest of the engine.

The concourse way would have been to paint the engine the correct original Corporate Blue originally making the addition/change of pan a little easier.

If you the search feature you will find many threads that discuss the out of the gun paint formula and a discussion of the current close to original color out of the can according to the general opinion here. Clue its the one Marty mentions above.

Believe, at this point, the newly painted oil pan will be obvious looking at the condition of the car you provided.
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 08, 2016, 05:35:35 PM: Quote from: Ralf on February 08, 2016, 12:53:25 PM
Probably my fault.
Here are the pictures directly.

Mine
(http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img2015081415c89tub4vni.png) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Scott Drake "dark blue":
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/motoroelwannebksw95362eg.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Lighter Blue:

(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/imagephpgac0782to5.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
To complicate things there is a lighter then typical blue and a more typical assemblyline blue that is described as dark blue . There are a LOT of things changed from assemblyline in picture so I am assuming that the paint is not original ether . Hard to say what will match a unknown repainted color . Assemblyline paint is a known quantity and easier to make accurate suggestions. The point is you can not go by the "name" of the color. You have to go by the product which you will get excellent suggestions of the more correct looking color products here.
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: Ralf on February 09, 2016, 01:21:21 PM: People here in Germany recommend Toyota 857 medium blue which is similar to Old Ford Blue 1621. It's something between FORD Light Blue 1601 and FORD Corporate Blue DE 1606.
Problem seems to be the difficulty to import rattle cans Duplicolor/Enamel from US to Germany.....forbidden. In Germany hardly to get.
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: ruppstang on February 09, 2016, 09:23:16 PM: Can you use a mix code and shoot it out of a gun? That would be better anyway.
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: Ralf on April 07, 2016, 01:13:32 PM: My oil pan...

Ok, could be that mine has been re-colored sometime and does not match original anymore. No idea...

Still not clear which colour I should use. Asking a german "specialist" he says FORD light blue would be correct for my car built. Neither the FORD Dark Blue nor the FORD Corporate Blue.

Ralf
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: J_Speegle on April 07, 2016, 02:45:46 PM: Quote from: Ralf on April 07, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
My oil pan...
Ok, could be that mine has been re-colored sometime and does not match original anymore. No idea...
Still not clear which colour I should use.................................

The color in this country would be "FORD Corporate Blue" as mentioned above. Problem is that its just a name not a mix/or formula - just what they label the container as.
If you need a sprayable (out of a spray gun) the PPG number is listed in maybe a dozen threads related to painting the engines
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 07, 2016, 09:58:53 PM: Ralf,
I have the PPG codes and it is still available in the Dallas area, however it has lead and I am sure you can't get it in the DDR.. Uh, I mean Germany. I did take care of getting some to a member here, however It would have to go via AIR to Deutschland, and that would be hard to do.

-Keith
Title: Re: Correct Oil Pan Colour 1967?
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on April 07, 2016, 10:00:35 PM: P.S. National Parts Depot does offer a catalyzed aerosol can version of the paint. It's possible that can be shipped.

-Keith