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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1966 Mustang => Topic started by: s2ms on November 20, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
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I've read the jack posts here and Marcus' outstanding jack ID guide but I'm still a little unclear on some specific details.
Both jacks pictured below are I believe typical of 66. Which one is more correct for a March 66 San Jose car? The top one is an Ausco course thread jack, the bottom one a fine thread Ryerson & Haynes. To confuse the issue I've seen a few later 66's with OE jacks that have the longer 65 style flip top...
Thanks,
Dave
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I've read the jack posts here and Marcus' outstanding jack ID guide but I'm still a little unclear on some specific details.
Both jacks pictured below are I believe typical of 66. Which one is more correct for a March 66 San Jose car? The top one is an Ausco course thread jack, the bottom one a fine thread Ryerson & Haynes. To confuse the issue I've seen a few later 66's with OE jacks that have the longer 65 style flip top...
Thanks,
Dave
The top picture is a typical 65/66 SJ jack. Bottom is typical for Dearborn or Metuchen
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Thanks Bob!
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The top picture is a typical 65/66 SJ jack. Bottom is typical for Dearborn or Metuchen
I have the top jack model, so I believe original to the car but, I can't find any mark on it., any special place to look for..? The wrench has a big A inside the handle, would this mean is an Ausco jack.?
Josep
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I have the top jack model, so I believe original to the car but, I can't find any mark on it., any special place to look for..? The wrench has a big A inside the handle, would this mean is an Ausco jack.?
Josep
The style of the Jack is the most important identifier for a given plant. In the case of your picture it is a SJ jack . Look at the area where the jack drive threads through the bracket. The one that is shaped in a 'U" is the typical SJ style and the one threaded through a steel block is the typical Dearborn or Metuchen style.
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The point i am trying to make is relevance. You have to be a foot away and look for metal stamped letters. You can see the style of jack from about 20 feet away and don't have to look any further.
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Many thanks for the clarification Bob.! I'm happy my jack corresponds to the car.! Just guessed for some marks on it, but I understand the most important thing is their shape. The only mark I can see is inside the handle of the wrench, and it's a BIG stamped A.
I'm missing the nut, bolt and plate to secure the spare wheel. Though NPD has the repo to complete that part.
Josep
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BTW, if this is correct for a 66 car, where it's supposed to be the ratchet stored..? Can't see it.
Josep
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Josep,
Thanks for posting the photos. If the jack is original to your car it would be another example of the style more identified with 65 having the longer flip top.
Is either long or short flip top style acceptable for 66?
Thanks,
Dave
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BTW, if this is correct for a 66 car, where it's supposed to be the ratchet stored..? Can't see it.
Josep
It is indicated in the lower section of the illustration marked "handle" ;) .
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It is indicated in the lower section of the illustration marked "handle" ;) .
+1 its inserted inside the jack between the base and the threaded rod
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Thanks guys.!!
Josep
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for the correct lugwrench tool ratchet for my car and I found in an old post in the VMF that for late 66 cars, the ratchet wrench should be black semi-gloss, is that correct..? Thanks,
Josep
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for the correct lugwrench tool ratchet for my car and I found in an old post in the VMF that for late 66 cars, the ratchet wrench should be black semi-gloss, is that correct..? Thanks,
Two problems/issues IMHO with the statement above. First your getting information from old posts and on other sites that may not have the depth and breathe that this one does. Sorry just a little bias ;)
Ratchet wrenches for jacks in 66 or even 66 were not painted black or any other color originally
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Jeff, maybe is my fault in understanding the language correctly.
Thought I read in late 66 cars they were black, but obviously I'm wrong.
You signed the post but I didn't understand what you wanted to say, sorry.
Josep
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Josep and S2ms, See these earlier threads on the same subject... They will explain most of your questions...
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2511.msg13813#msg13813
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=1295.msg6676#msg6676
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=1872.msg9693#msg9693
:o)
Tony K.
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for the info. I have read those threads and a few more references but still looking for....
Bob answered the question about the trunnion difference between SJ jacks and Dearborn/Metuchen jacks (thanks Bob!), but the 65/66 flip-top variation I'm still unclear on. I'm referring specifically to SJ jacks here.....from what I've read typically the 65 jack has the longer flip-top and the 66 a shorter flip-top, all other things being equal. But, I've seen several examples of mid-late SJ 66's with original long flip-top jacks. Just trying to figure out how year specific the flip-top thing is, or if that stuff is still unknown.
Thanks,
Dave
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Dave, Also, Don't forget to go into the "Library" articles section on the website. There is a great .PDF article on '65-'70 Jack identification by Marcus Anghel.. The weblink to the 1966 articles list is below:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12874.0
:o)
Tony K.
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Hi Tony, thank you very much for the links, very nice info.
Alright, I have no doubt my jack is a original SJ from its shape, but I can't find any A mark on it.! I have checked all places, specially in the flip top but nothing, look alike no marks on it. Is that common or it must have a mark..? I don't think it has been repainted so.. the lug wrench (replacement tool) has a A inside the handle, but I can't see it on the jack.
Josep
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Dave, Also, Don't forget to go into the "Library" articles section on the website. There is a great .PDF article on '65-'70 Jack identification by Marcus Anghel.. The weblink to the 1966 articles list is below:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12874.0
:o)
Tony K.
Tony,
Thanks, I have read Marcus' '65-'70 Jack identification Guide as I mentioned in the opening post to this thread. That is the primary reference I'm using for the long flip-top being used for 64.5-65 and the short flip-top used for 66. But since I've seen several later 66's with original long flip-top jacks, including Josep's car, the question remains if both style flip-tops were used, and considered correct, for 66. Unless I missed it I have not seen that question specifically answered.
Thanks,
Dave
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Ok, not trying to "muddy" this puddle up any more but, I have a few jacks that all came out of either Metuchen or Dearborn cars (makes sense since I'm in Maryland). They are all the large coarse thread jacks with the "block type" end which Bob states is typical of Dearborn. Is it safe to say that the "U" style end vs the block type AND small threaded shaft are common to SJ cars???? ???
Here is a pic from one of the prior threads where this is apparently from an original owner April 66' built Metuchen coupe.
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I see coarce thread jacks very original 686970 NJ mustangs
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Hi Guys,
Interesting subject, thanks Dave. I have two jacks, both with the long flip top.
-1 marked RH and fine thread screw
-1 marked A and coarse thread screw
Both have a U shaped brackets in each end and these brackets are turned towards the
outside and not like the inside on one end as in some of the pictures shown
Which one is correct, if any? for my 65 early May GT350
Thanks, Texas Swede
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On the subject of threads, take a real close look at them. They are a "double thread", for each full turn of the rod, 360 degrees, there are two distinct threads cut into the rod. The thread type is called Acme, but this thread has a slight dip on the crown, the pointy top. An Acme thread was designed for power, extra load bearing, and the double thread part for speed. To verify this, use a piece of chalk to mark any one thread's crown while you turn the rod. In one full rotation, you will skip a thread.
Jim
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Hi Guys,
Interesting subject, thanks Dave. I have two jacks, both with the long flip top.
-1 marked RH and fine thread screw
-1 marked A and coarse thread screw
Both have a U shaped brackets in each end and these brackets are turned towards the
outside and not like the inside on one end as in some of the pictures shown
Which one is correct, if any? for my 65 early May GT350
Thanks, Texas Swede
The RH marked jack would be the least likely IMO for your 65 GT350.
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Ha,ha, Murphy's law again as the RH marked is the one restored and in my car now.
The A marked needs a complete cleaning, paint and sticker.
Well, just to get to work.
Texas Swede
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is there a source for the 66 jack warning label/sticker?
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is there a source for the 66 jack warning label/sticker?
Many if not just about all of the parts suppliers carry them. Some are truer to the original than others. There are two to three different major producers of stickers. Some produce more/different stickers while they also produce some of the same. Jack stickers have been reproduced for over 35 years