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Title: Name That Part
Post by: carguytroy on January 30, 2018, 02:54:15 PM
What is this thing? Car is a 1967. Not sure if it belongs to it or not.

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Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gta289 on January 30, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
67 windshield washer pump - foot driven, believe it or not.  I'm helping restore a 56 TBird with no w/s wiper washers whatsoever, it was an option.  So I guess a foot pump solution is better than nothing :)

Looks like a cardboard sleeve pushed over the pedal.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: carguytroy on January 30, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
67 windshield washer pump - foot driven, believe it or not.  I'm helping restore a 56 TBird with no w/s wipers whatsoever, it was an option.  So I guess a foot pump solution is better than nothing :)

Looks like a cardboard sleeve pushed over the pedal.

That was fast. Thanks for the quick answer. Didn't know there was such thing. The cardboard looking thing is a piece of rubber hose. Thought it was something to keep it from rattling under the dash or something.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: Bossbill on January 30, 2018, 04:06:14 PM
67 windshield washer pump - foot driven, believe it or not.  I'm helping restore a 56 TBird with no w/s wipers whatsoever, it was an option.  So I guess a foot pump solution is better than nothing :)

Looks like a cardboard sleeve pushed over the pedal.

These are great! This is also the predecessor to intermittent wipers. If you push down partway and release the wipers go one interval and park. If you push harder and release you get wiper juice and one interval. Keep your foot on and they stay on for as long as you like.

It takes practice to not hit your high beams. It takes more practice to use this, shift, and flip your high beams.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: ruppstang on January 30, 2018, 08:30:30 PM
I have a friend that when he was a young man had his girl friend convinced that he had voice controlled wipers in his Mustang. LOL
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: dave6768 on January 30, 2018, 10:38:53 PM
I had convinced friends that mine would auto-detect rain and come on by itself....lot's of fun.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 30, 2018, 11:22:23 PM
That was fast. Thanks for the quick answer. Didn't know there was such thing. The cardboard looking thing is a piece of rubber hose. Thought it was something to keep it from rattling under the dash or something.
The tube is not used when installed. Maybe to protect prior to installation.  The NOS ones I have had did not have that.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 196667Bob on January 31, 2018, 04:29:31 AM
Attached is what goes on the end of the Pedal instead of that rubber sleeve.

Bob
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 196667Bob on January 31, 2018, 04:51:18 AM
67 windshield washer pump - foot driven, believe it or not.  I'm helping restore a 56 TBird with no w/s wipers whatsoever, it was an option.  So I guess a foot pump solution is better than nothing :)

Looks like a cardboard sleeve pushed over the pedal.

John : I believe you meant to say "with no w/s washers whatsoever". Wipers were of course Standard items, but the washers were an Option at least through 1962.

Bob
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gta289 on January 31, 2018, 06:07:37 AM
Bob, you are indeed correct.  Post fixed.  Thanks
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: Bossbill on January 18, 2019, 04:33:14 PM
I'm restoring mine now and wonder --- what did the white sticker say on it originally?
It would be a neat touch to replicate whatever is supposed to be on there.

(https://i.imgur.com/SH57hNSl.jpg)
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 18, 2019, 05:09:57 PM
I'm restoring mine now and wonder --- what did the white sticker say on it originally?
It would be a neat touch to replicate whatever is supposed to be on there.

(https://i.imgur.com/SH57hNSl.jpg)


I believe I can answer that once I get home. I believe it is a Ford Oval Script but will see if there is any more info
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on January 18, 2019, 05:43:48 PM
Bill: It is a white sticker with the oval and Ford script. My wipers don't work when I step on mine.  I had to mask the sticker off with low-tack hobby masking tape when I painted mine. Has anyone else had the wipers not function with the pedal post reassembly?
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Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gta289 on January 18, 2019, 05:50:09 PM
like this
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 18, 2019, 05:53:28 PM
like this

I thought it had an engineering number too, wasn't sure. My original is intact AND I have a 'spare' NOS one ;) I'll post pics in a few...
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on January 18, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
NOS sticker or pump assembly?
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 18, 2019, 08:54:57 PM
NOS sticker or pump assembly?
NOS sticker on a NOS pump

My original has no sign of a sticker. I repainted the SGB about a year ago. I do not recall it had it or did not have it. I do recall the yellow paint daub and the color coding for the wiring connections.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: Bossbill on January 18, 2019, 09:26:55 PM
NOS sticker on a NOS pump

My original has no sign of a sticker. I repainted the SGB about a year ago. I do not recall it had it or did not have it. I do recall the yellow paint daub and the color coding for the wiring connections.

Thanks for the pictures. That helps a lot.
And, that's a really nice piece. I think Keith is drooling.

As you say, it appears that the service part carries the sticker, whereas the originals would not. That clears that up!
See later post.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. You guys are great.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 196667Bob on January 18, 2019, 09:38:51 PM
My wipers don't work when I step on mine.  I had to mask the sticker off with low-tack hobby masking tape when I painted mine. Has anyone else had the wipers not function with the pedal post reassembly?
                                                                                                                                -Keith
   

Keith : The rubber bellows on our 67's look identical to the ones on the Early Birds. The reason I bring this up is that NPD has a Repair Kit, as well as the individual pieces, for the Early Bird W/S Washer Pumps. You night want to check further to see if that might work. In looking back at NPD again, they do show the Bellows inly for '67(https://www.npdlink.com/product/pump-windshield-washer-foot-operated-rubber-bellow-only/146370?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DW%25252FS%252BWasher%252BPump%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D1967&year=1967

Bob
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on January 18, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
Keith : The rubber bellows on our 67's look identical to the ones on the Early Birds. The reason I bring this up is that NPD has a Repair Kit, as well as the individual pieces, for the Early Bird W/S Washer Pumps. You night want to check further to see if that might work. In looking back at NPD again, they do show the Bellows inly for '67(https://www.npdlink.com/product/pump-windshield-washer-foot-operated-rubber-bellow-only/146370?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DW%25252FS%252BWasher%252BPump%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D1967&year=1967

Bob
Hello, Bob!  I saw the pump was out there in the newest catalog. However, I am suspect something failed in the switch. It may even be The paper that protects it was looking ratty. I didn't test it before reinstalling it because the electronics and the way they were wired make it very hard to test.

                                                                                                                                                  -Keith
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gta289 on January 19, 2019, 07:20:53 AM
As you say, it appears that the service part carries the sticker, whereas the originals would not. That clears that up!

The last three unrestored cars I have pulled these from, one each from SJ, Dearborn, and NJ, all have stickers on them.  I think the stickers were day 1 items based on that.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 67gta289 on January 19, 2019, 08:31:56 AM
Here is another post that came to mind - the sticker is shown, and there is a discussion between early and late wiring in relation to the pump

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8146.0

Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: Bossbill on January 19, 2019, 05:57:54 PM
Ok, 67 changes/oddities rear their head again.
I'll update my post above.

But based on the Very Early Wiring post  it appears we have some different labels and colors.
We have a February 67 Dearborn car with  C7ZB-17664-A under a black FoMoCo script in an oval.
A September 66 SJ car with no part number and red FoMoCo script in an oval.
An October 66 NJ car with a C7ZB-17664-B and a black FoMoCo script in an oval.

Maybe my March car DOES need a C7ZB-17664-A with FoMoCo in an oval.
Title: Re: Name That Part
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on January 19, 2019, 06:41:36 PM
I have a late Nov 66 build 67 Shelby. Single connector. Harness and pump original to vehicle.  The decal as evident on assembly line installation and replacement are identical. 
This issue with my unit is when I step on it there is no cycle of the wipers. The pump is functional. I am suspect the switch in the pedal is faulty being the wipers work fine from the wiper switch.  I was able to work with a '67 cougar sequential harness and make it work, but following the path of the pedal switch made little to no sense.
I would have liked to have made a jumper to test the wiring at the connector to check the wiring.  I did unwrap the original under dash harness to check it's condition and for any wires that looked like they had been hot or showed signs of being brittle. I only found the courtesy switch wire had been hot ( my doing when it unplugged from the jamb switch and shorted. I replaced it with a wire from a donor harness. I replaced the fuse box fuse clips and wrapped the harness as it was done with the same materials. Then installed a reproduction harness tag. Everything works.. Just the pulse of the wiper from the pedal is an issue.
                                                                                                                                                     -Keith