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Title: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 24, 2017, 02:13:27 PM
Hello,

Just to ask you if this odd VIN number is correct or are my eyes that have a problem. What i see here is a VIN starting with a 3 and not with a 5 that would be the correct.! What am I missing here..?

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: ChrisV289 on January 24, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
What does the inner fender VIN say?
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 24, 2017, 02:24:50 PM
Chris, I don't know as this is a car close to Detroit that I have seen for sale, and I only have the pic from the door tag. Maybe I  have to ask the seller for the apronĀ“
s VIN to check that..

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 24, 2017, 02:55:00 PM
Looks like a 5 to me.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 24, 2017, 02:59:11 PM
Charles, I see the DSO 33 and looks to me that they are the same as the first number in the VIN. I compare those 2 3s and the date numbers, 05R and the 5 looks completely different to me as the 3s in the DSO and the same as the first number in the VIN. Or my eyes are really in need of adjustment.!

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: carlite65 on January 24, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
i see a '3'. imo it is a mis stamping.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 24, 2017, 03:10:22 PM
That's what I also see.! Yes, it looks to me a mis stamping too. Odd VIN.!

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: ChrisV289 on January 24, 2017, 03:16:12 PM
Is the car black now? Should be vintage burgundy
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 24, 2017, 03:19:17 PM
Yes Chris, its Vintage Burgundy code X.
http://www.showdownauto.com/?vehicle=58028-2

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: jwc66k on January 24, 2017, 03:39:33 PM
Looks like a 5 to me.
Time to change brands of Bourbon.
Jim
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 24, 2017, 06:20:53 PM
Time to change brands of Bourbon.
Jim

I still say it looks like a 5.  Need a better pic.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: 67gta289 on January 24, 2017, 06:31:53 PM
About an hour from me.  Sometimes I get within a few miles for work. If you are serious about buying it send me a PM
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: ChrisV289 on January 24, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
Ahh the beauty of smartphones
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: rodster on January 24, 2017, 08:14:35 PM
Another look.... of course it would be easier just to take another picture of the tag.  ;)
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: rrenz on January 24, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Id say 3 when you compare it to a 5
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 24, 2017, 10:00:25 PM
I think there is a corrosion line or mark on the plate that is throwing you guys off into thinking it's a 3.

I still say 5.  A pic of the back should put this to rest.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: rodster on January 24, 2017, 11:41:38 PM
Or a good close up picture. Some cameras have a great macro feature.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: jwc66k on January 25, 2017, 12:20:12 AM
Here's a blowup. It's a 3.
Jim
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Josep on January 25, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
I think there is a corrosion line or mark on the plate that is throwing you guys off into thinking it's a 3.

I still say 5.  A pic of the back should put this to rest.

Charles, you are correct, after a closer inspection, I see the scratch that let us think that's a 3 and not the real 5.
It's much stronger than the downward line in the 5 so that confuses us. Agree with you, its a 5 as it has to be.
Let's try this modified pic..

Josep
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 25, 2017, 05:36:49 AM
Lol What are the odds it it a mis-stamping?
Optical delusion! When in doubt, CALL the people! Probably a toll free number for most who have responded ;)
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: awhtx on January 25, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
Here's a blowup. It's a 3.
Jim

This picture actually confirms to me that it is a 5. The vertical line in a 5 is more apparent than the angular line in a 3. I'm thinking the angular line in Josep's original photo is either a scratch or corrosion.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: jwc66k on January 25, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
This is fun. I made it a 3 using Adobe Photoshop Elements 10.
Jim
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: MattDoscher on January 25, 2017, 06:35:48 PM
I don't know, I still see 3F and can still see the angular line.  You can see the difference when compared to the 05R.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: jwc66k on January 25, 2017, 07:08:00 PM
I went back to Photoshop and tried to make the "3" a "5" for about 15-20 minutes using all the bells and whistles available and could not do it.
A better original picture is needed.
Jim
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: NEFaurora on January 27, 2017, 11:48:01 PM
I've seen that tag before...

I guess that the "reverse image" does not lie.... I guess that it is a "3".  Clearly a mis-stamp!

:o)

Tony K.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 28, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
I've seen that tag before...

I guess that the "reverse image" does not lie.... I guess that it is a "3".  Clearly a mis-stamp!

Did you read all the posts?
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: GT500KR on January 29, 2017, 07:22:12 PM
Looks like a 5 to me.


+1  A "5" with a scratch.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: tomtri66 on March 06, 2017, 03:02:30 PM
I think there is a corrosion line or mark on the plate that is throwing you guys off into thinking it's a 3.

I still say 5.  A pic of the back should put this to rest.

Charles is right.  Look closely, looks like specs of corrosion in just the right place making it look like a 3 in this picture.
Title: Re: Warranty door tag 65 Mustang
Post by: Skyway65 on March 06, 2017, 07:04:51 PM
Considering they were well into the '65 year when this car was made I'm guessing the jig, or whatever held the "5" was pretty much locked in place.  The sequential numbers would have changed with each car while the "5" would have no reason to change--why would a random "3" show up?  It wouldn't.  At least not in that part of the VIN.