ConcoursMustang Forums
3rd Generation 1979 - 1993 => 1979 - 1993 => Topic started by: dbeck72130 on November 03, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
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Just got my judging sheet from Savannah, my first show in concours with my 93 LX convertible. I lost points on non original battery and positive cable. Is there a place I can buy a battery and a positive cable?
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those parts are not reproduced. you will have to check salvage yards & e-bay for the battery. the cables you may be able to find in NOS form. do you know exactly what you need?? the battery need not be functional. it will be judged on condition & cleanliness only.
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Good luck Deb,
Finding that battery, The cable will be a little easyer to find I think.
The Columbus Ohio All-Ford super swap is coming up Thanksgiving weekend, check that out for some parts.
What else did you get points taken on?
Jake
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I think I can find or repair everything else, wiper blades, convertible boot, overflow cap yellow markings, over spray on undercarriage. Thanks for your help David
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Hey Dave, glad to see you're on the forum! We were just talking about you the other night, and about how you had to have the cleanest Fox convertible in Savannah!
Brett (and Jessica)
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Don't know about the cleanest, but we work hard to make it as clean as it can be!
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Hi dbeck72130,
Here is what I would do. As long as its a Ford Motorcraft Positive battery cable for a Mustang you will be good.
Here is a NOS positive battery cable for a 88 Mustang
http://www.quirkparts.com/oe-ford/e8zz14300a
For the battery - It does not have to be original except in Thoroughbred class. It must be Motorcraft and correct group for your Mustang.
Hope this helps
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Thanks, that's the cable I have on the car and I have the correct group and size Motorcraft battery. They still hit me for 2 points for non original battery and cable. Still got gold, just want to save all the points I can.
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Thanks, that's the cable I have on the car and I have the correct group and size Motorcraft battery. They still hit me for 2 points for non original battery and cable. Still got gold, just want to save all the points I can.
Dave, I didn't want to say anything until someone else chimed in, but I too thought that you could use a Motorcraft battery in Concours Driven. I know you can in the vintage Concours Driven classes.
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Thanks, that's the cable I have on the car and I have the correct group and size Motorcraft battery. They still hit me for 2 points for non original battery and cable. Still got gold, just want to save all the points I can.
Did you show it in Unrestored class, if so, that would make sense. Here is the rule for that.
Unrestored cars are usually low mileage with original factory parts and equipment as ordered. These cars will be judged on originality by Thoroughbred standards with reproduction or updated Ford Service Replacement parts not acceptable
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Thanks to all, a lot of good info. Planning on 2 national shows 2015 Grovetown GA and Columbus OH look forward to seeing some of you there. Wanted to thank Steve Prewitt for his years of service to the MCA and his help along the way.
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Thanks, that's the cable I have on the car and I have the correct group and size Motorcraft battery. They still hit me for 2 points for non original battery and cable. Still got gold, just want to save all the points I can.
Sounds like they only "hit" you for the battery. It concours driven, even with a Motorcraft battery it is a mandatory 2 pt deduction for wrong group and size. What size and group battery do you have?
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bluemax, at reply #7, it states, that they have the correct group and size Motorcraft battery.
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Bx-58-c is what I have and that is correct per my ford dealer.
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Bx-58-c is what I have and that is correct per my ford dealer.
I am not familiar with your particular model year, so I can not confirm that is correct. However, what does your owners manual list as the correct group and size? I do know that Tom (the owner of the '87 Saleen that was at the Savannah show) is looking for a BX58C for his car.
I know on my '86 SVO, Ford does not offer the original group and size, but do offer a service replacement. The service replacement is correct as far as a replacement, but not correct for MCA concours judging.
The easiest way to get to the bottom of this is to contact the judge that judged your car (their number should be on your judging sheet). :)
Hope this helps.
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Here is the one you needy
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I am not 100 percent up to speed on the 93 model variations but it's likely the same as the 89.
I am familar with the issues on the earlier models. Your battery should black top and black case for 93. White case was earlier years.
As for the positive battery cable, it's likely the same as the far back to 87. The original lead cable end is the giveaway as the new Motorcraft replacement is "C" shaped. I see used ones selling for $100 and often people snap up the new replacement part by mistake at a big price tag. I have found a nearly identical Motorcraft replacement like the original for a meer $18. Let me look up that part number.
As someone stated previously, the original battery and cable are only required for Thoroughbred and unrestored classes. If you need to dig deeper, I can ask Chuck to contact you.
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The replacement cable I found is Motorcraft WC-8902. It measures 14.25 inches from the lead block to the tip of the ring lug. The ford number on the tag was f0tz-14300-c and f0tu-14300-aa. It seems be a 1990 part number. My Ford parts book only goes to 1989. This new part comes wrapped up with corrigated tubing and black tape. Once removed, it's a plain red cable. $16.99 on Ebay.
I have not measured the original cable. The ford parts book lists two cables for 89. One (21") with out 72 amp battery and 72 amp battery (10"). Not sure how its measured.
Lastly, at least for 89 they seem to paint the cable and battery terminal black.