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Offline 1969CJ

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69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« on: December 27, 2016, 07:23:27 PM »
Restoring my 1969. Steering box pulled out has following information.

C7ZR
355CA

Tag info;
SMB D
9F 11B
 

My car is originally manual steering. is this the correct steering box? Thanks, Mike
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2016, 10:22:24 PM »
Quote from: 1969CJ on December 27, 2016, 07:23:27 PM
Restoring my 1969. Steering box pulled out has following information............
My car is originally manual steering. is this the correct steering box? Thanks, Mike

Date is off if its for your Jan 69 built Mustang so at least that suggests that it's not correct for your car.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 10:26:15 PM »
 Box is for manual correct? SMB D
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 10:29:28 PM »
Quote from: 1969CJ on December 27, 2016, 10:26:15 PM
Box is for manual correct? SMB D

There were two different manual steering boxes and in turn numbers used in 69. The difference was the gear ratio 19-1 or 16 - 1

SMB D was the "lighter" of the two
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2016, 11:58:16 AM »
The reason I asked was that the car was converted from manual to power steering. when I looked at tag and tried to decode the box was manual.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2016, 02:54:22 PM »
Quote from: 1969CJ on December 28, 2016, 11:58:16 AM
The reason I asked was that the car was converted from manual to power steering. when I looked at tag and tried to decode the box was manual.

Are you concerned getting the correct one (right number) for a CJ with manual steering or just manual steering?
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2016, 04:40:39 PM »
My main concern is that this steering box is the correct part, secondary would be the date code. I could get a tag through Kevin Marti.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2016, 07:11:33 PM »
Quote from: 1969CJ on December 28, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
My main concern is that this steering box is the correct part, secondary would be the date code. I could get a tag through Kevin Marti.

My concern for you is that its the correct (right ratio) for your application seeing that you have a CJ and not (for example) a manual steering 2V 302.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 07:23:13 PM »
When you say lighter of the two what are you referring too? You said boxes could be 19-1 and 16-1. Which do I have and is it correct or incorrect for my car.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2016, 07:26:32 PM »
69 Shop Manual Info.
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2016, 07:36:55 PM »
OK, I have the 19-1 saw on the sheet, is this correct for my car?
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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2016, 08:18:19 PM »
Quote from: 1969CJ on December 28, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
OK, I have the 19-1 saw on the sheet, is this correct for my car?

Trying to find that out

What I've found so far

- Scott H at the 428CJ Registry wrote 7 years ago that either was available on the 69 CJ  and it was not part of the competition (mach I) suspension package. Trying to confirm that.

- Have not been able to find a single Marti report for a 69 CJ with the manual steering optional ratio (if the above it true) ordered or listed.

- The 19-1 is not what was used on other performance applications with manual steering like the Boss 302  from what I can find

- Checked through a bunch of buildsheets and they appear to be of no help

- Haven't found anything to refute Scott's statement at this point

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Re: 69 Manual Steering Box numbers
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2016, 12:49:19 AM »
Found this on the internet searching, thought I had the answer but at end says (optional)

http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/DanJonesSteeringBoxRatios.html


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