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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: Rossco on September 09, 2017, 04:29:51 AM
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Morning just been reading some information on the 69 Mach 1 further down in the section and would like to know the same really for a Jan 9th Dearborn 390 engine with GT package
I have seen the X on the headers or the S or even the OK stamp on the valve covers, but as Jeff said better with No markings than wrong Markings
Wondered if anyone has any info at all?
Ross
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Since these markings were placed on the engine at the engine plant this detail would not be car plant specific but instead engine plant specific so moving this over in the 67-8 section.
Will post a couple of comments once I look up examples and notes but would not suggest that markings from a 69 would be the same for an engine two years earlier. We will see ;)
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Ok Jeff
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Took a look and could only confirm (number of examples that all had the marking) what appears to be a number on the forward face of the drivers side head surface.
Appears that they were applied (likely the difference was a different worker) with a circle around the number and without.
Number was single or double digit.
Applied more often (according to the examples I have) in white crayon marker
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Cheers Jeff great info once again
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Now remember there would be markings on the carburator and possibly the distributor Separate from the engine assembly markings ;)
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REQUEST to other viewers: Please do not use or copy these onto your car unless it is a 1967 with a 390 or 428 originally installed. Every time we share these details they turn up on something completely different. For that reason I often don't share them in public but will give this a try.
Here you go Rossco - this should help
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/8/6-090917162614-86695.jpeg)
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Jeff
what can I say.... greatly appreciated, I understand the value of these photos
Ross
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REQUEST to other viewers: Please do not use or copy these onto your car unless it is a 1967 with a 390 or 428 originally installed. Every time we share these details they turn up on something completely different. For that reason I often don't share them in public but will give this a try.
Upper right photo looks very familiar. No need to copy when you have the original. ;)
Jeff has an amazing collection of photos!
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Upper right photo looks very familiar. No need to copy when you have the original. ;)
Jeff has an amazing collection of photos!
As you know one of my sources (of which there are many) are the good owners that have shared their findings over the years.
Don't say if often enough THANKS to all that have sent, posted and otherwise shared their findings and information over the last 40 years or more
And it's not just the pictures or information it's having invested allot of time labeling and organizing so that they can be found and shared with some ease. As I've said before - a picture is useless without when and where (car data) it came from 8)
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As you know one of my sources (of which there are many) are the good owners that have shared their findings over the years.
Don't say if often enough THANKS to all that have sent, posted and otherwise shared their findings and information over the last 40 years or more
And it's not just the pictures or information it's having invested allot of time labeling and organizing so that they can be found and shared with some ease. As I've said before - a picture is useless without when and where (car data) it came from 8)
And for that we have to give you a big THANKS. The time and effort you put into this is amazing.
Submitting a picture to you is the easy part. ;)
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Thanks... I find it interesting that the shades of blue are so varied on those pics.
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Thanks... I find it interesting that the shades of blue are so varied on those pics.
Would not suggest that is a great take away or the colors you see are correct and true. The difference is likely just the camera settings and other things that take place when you take and use digital tools to save and manipulate photos as we've warned/mentioned before
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Jeff, have you determined a meaning for the numbers ?
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Jeff, have you determined a meaning for the numbers ?
Best guess would be that it identified with an final inspector or the line the engine was assembled in. We already have the initial of the assembler on the completed engine so not much left
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Best guess would be that it identified with an final inspector or the line the engine was assembled in. We already have the initial of the assembler on the completed engine so not much left
Don't think I remember this, where would I look to find it?
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Now remember there would be markings on the carburator and possibly the distributor Separate from the engine assembly markings ;)
Jeff you mentioned in a previous post regarding the factory markings for a Dearborn 1967 390 GT for carburettors and coils do you have a photo example at all please
Ross
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Jeff you mentioned in a previous post regarding the factory markings for a Dearborn 1967 390 GT for carburettors and coils do you have a photo example at all please
Ross
Ignition coils would have the same markings discussed in other threads
Carburetors would have over a dozen stampings and marks all related to their assembly and nothing related to a specific plant since they were installed on the engines at the engine assembly plants. Same goes for the ignition coil. Most likely your car's coil would have used the AUTOLITE version of the ink stamp
For carbs you have identification of each major components except (don't ever recall seeing) the base plate.
So bowls, main body, plates all got stampings.
Then you have assembler stamps on the completed carb, the fuel bowls and the secondary vacuum pod. Can find the vacuum pods with up to three different ink stampings along with the daub
Normally a color daub on the vacuum pod not sure if that was a test confirmation or an identification.
For the stamps - have always found them done in black and often a mixture of three different fonts. Makes it fun reproducing the stamps
IF I recall correctly one of the caps for the chokes included a paint identifier also. Need to check since that was mentioned in a TSB article and report back.
Hesitating about posting specific markings since its so easy for these to get slapped on every sort of Holley out there once people see them posted.
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Point taken Jeff
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Best guess would be that it identified with an final inspector or the line the engine was assembled in. We already have the initial of the assembler on the completed engine so not much left
Don't think I remember this, where would I look to find it?
Jeff, maybe you missed this when I originally posted, I think you are saying there is an initial of the assembler somewhere on the engine?
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Point taken Jeff
Kind of getting off thread anyway ;)
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Don't think I remember this, where would I look to find it?
Sorry yes forgot :( Sometimes resposes get put off and then forgotten. My apologies
Hope this helps. Though this is from a different year 67's have been found with the same location. Pattern, like small blocks. Year, Month, Day of month then Assemblers initial
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-041117161401.jpeg)
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No apologies needed, I know you get asked lots of questions and I appreciate you taking time to answer them! Usually with photos attached. ;)
Thanks for that info and photo, don't think I recall knowing that so learned something new!