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3rd Generation 1979 - 1993 => 1979 - 1993 => Topic started by: mtchstng65 on June 16, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
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Looking for some pics of original oil filters, specifically for '86 GT. I believe assembly line was painted gray embossed Motorcraft. What would the first oil change Motorcraft look like. Any photos of either/both appreciated. I kept everything on my '86 since new except that filter. I lost 1 point at MCA show (urestored) because of the filter and want to see what I'm looking for.
Thanks,
mitch
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the "1st oil change" Motorcraft should look like this one (with the embossed end):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Motorcraft-FL-1A-Long-Life-Oil-Filter-Vintage-Mustang-Torino-/400726153654?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d4d23d9b6&vxp=mtr
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Looking for some pics of original oil filters, specifically for '86 GT. I believe assembly line was painted gray embossed Motorcraft. What would the first oil change Motorcraft look like. Any photos of either/both appreciated. I kept everything on my '86 since new except that filter. I lost 1 point at MCA show (urestored) because of the filter and want to see what I'm looking for.
Thanks,
mitch
Hi Mitch,
BobV is right.
MCA Rules state this
"Must be correct embossed Motorcraft FL-1A" 1 Point deduction if not embossed.
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Thanks guys! That's what I needed to know. I better stock up while I can. I'm sure at some point they will be tough to find. Didn't know if that's what the dealer one looked like.
mitch
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Thanks guys! That's what I needed to know. I better stock up while I can. I'm sure at some point they will be tough to find. Didn't know if that's what the dealer one looked like.
mitch
Mitch I am a 79-93 Mustang Concours judge. These Embossed filters are tough to find!
I would stock up. I think I have five NOS ones. I just bought another one from that link :)
P.S. I would love to see some pictures of your 86!
Have you ever checked put foureyedpride.com
Take care
David
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I am buying 5 from the link. :)
I visit foureyedpride but I'm not much of a poster.
MCA magazine Mustang Times took some photos after the Springfield MCA show so maybe it will be in the magazine at some point.
Seems like the original white battery is a tough piece, I noticed several people taking pics of the battery at the show.
People thought I was crazy driving the car up there and then putting in a dead battery for the show.
Mitch
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Mitch -
Is this you?
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2014-Q2/file-13.jpg)
and, yes, I took a picture of the battery too... ;D
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2014-Q2/file-15.jpg)
Yes, the embossed filters are getting tougher to find, but they are out there. I've been stocking up as well. Even shared a few with friends.
There's also a MFL1-A - Mexican filter. The embossed part is still correct, but the screen print is in Spanish. Those work well when painted grey. ;)
Also, keep in mind that most of these cars don't get many miles. While an annual oil change is still recommended, if the car only gets 500 miles/year, I'd run the same filter for 2 years. I also know people who swap oil filters at the show for that extra point - store the original filter in a sealed coffee can between shows.
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Yep, That's me!
Thanks for the eBay link. I ordered 5 from that guy, He gave me a break on the price-$10 each shipped.
Then a buddy at a Ford dealer found me 6 more so I am probably good. The '86 doesn't get driven too much but so far I have never trailered it.
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Glad to help! I picked up a few more from him too.
We'll have to meet up sometime. I was the 86 Saleen in Concours Driven a couple aisles east of you. Are you planning to go to the National in Lincoln NE?
My Saleen actually resided in St Louis for 20+ years (Tom Nelson). It had 40k miles on it when Tom sold - I just turned 46k miles. Same as you - never trailered, always driven.
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2014-Q2/file-6.jpg)
BTW, fun comparison shot - your engine compartment, then mine...
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2014-Q2/file-14.jpg)
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2014-Q2/file-8.jpg)
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BobV, Nice car! You were parked in the row of mustang years, right? I know your car too! Tom was in our Mustang club(Show-Me Mustang) for awhile. I think I sold him a set of headlight covers. Back in the day I had some on my car after seeing the Saleens with them.
I don't remember the car looking as good as you have it looking now, I checked your car out at the show. Very sharp! I see you still have R12 A/C, impressive! I finally converted because it always needed a charge every couple of years $ and the A/C has to work for the wife.
I don't think we will make the Lincoln show, my wife is going through chemo treatments and the timing doesn't work for us. Kicking around the idea of the Georgia MCA National but don't want to drive the '86 that far, may try trailering if everything goes well. The car had enough points for a Platinum award in Unrestored but they only give those at Grand Nationals or the last show of the year.
Again, I really like your car.
mitch
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Hey guys,
If you bought any Motorcraft filters from the link make sure you check them good. I had one box that had a STP filter and all of them looked like they have been wet and one was real rusty. Checking back with the seller to see what he will do.
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Motorcraft filters.
The seller is taking them back, 2 looked ok, 2 were rusty and one was a STP filter. So I am sending 3 back.
I got 6 NOS MOTORCRAFT FL-1 from a buddy of mine, they are not FL-1A though. Looks like they are date coded 1973. They are a little longer and the printing is different but still has MOTORCRAFT embossed on them. They are perfect NOS but not correct for the '86 unfortunately.
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Mine show as "out for delivery" today. I'll report my findings later..... :-\
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Hi BobV I will be judging at the Nebraska show. Hopefully I can see your Saleen
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FYI - The date code on the filter imaged in that Ebay auction is 904069211. Translates to April 6, 1992. Yes, the white Motorcraft vintage OE Batteries are "impossible" to find. I carry mine in one of those plastic marine battery boxes along with the tools necessary to swap it out at a show. That way I never have to hunt down the tools and the battery stays clean in storage.
See y'all in Lincoln.
Nice cars guys. I saw both of them in Springfield.
Jimmy A
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Hey guys,
If you bought any Motorcraft filters from the link make sure you check them good. I had one box that had a STP filter and all of them looked like they have been wet and one was real rusty. Checking back with the seller to see what he will do.
Hi I ordered one from the eBay link. The box was in bad shape but the filter looks good. I guess I was lucky
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/bassdb/EE35BE6F-350B-40C4-9C8F-99981B85D220_zpsfctrcnem.jpg) (http://s203.photobucket.com/user/bassdb/media/EE35BE6F-350B-40C4-9C8F-99981B85D220_zpsfctrcnem.jpg.html)
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I ordered 4. The boxes were beat up a bit, but 3 of the filters look good. The 4th one looks like a candidate for grey engine paint. Fortunately, no rust.
Hope to see a few of you in Lincoln! I'm signed up to judge as well.
David - are you bringing your 79?
BobV, Nice car! You were parked in the row of mustang years, right? I know your car too! Tom was in our Mustang club(Show-Me Mustang) for awhile. I think I sold him a set of headlight covers. Back in the day I had some on my car after seeing the Saleens with them.
I don't remember the car looking as good as you have it looking now, I checked your car out at the show. Very sharp! I see you still have R12 A/C, impressive! I finally converted because it always needed a charge every couple of years $ and the A/C has to work for the wife.
I don't think we will make the Lincoln show, my wife is going through chemo treatments and the timing doesn't work for us. Kicking around the idea of the Georgia MCA National but don't want to drive the '86 that far, may try trailering if everything goes well. The car had enough points for a Platinum award in Unrestored but they only give those at Grand Nationals or the last show of the year.
Yes, I was in the showcase row. There were extra headlight covers with the car, so they may have been yours!
I've had to do a LOT of polishing, cleaning, and TLC to get the car show-worthy. Tom provided a great canvas to work with though - mostly original paint, with all the Saleen-specific stuff intact. Yes, still R12 - used my LAST can of $.89 freon last year. It blows cold, although I did have some freeze-up trouble going thru Dallas last summer at 103*. A/C guy says I still need about 4-6 more oz of freon, but it wasn't worth tracking down another can until we knew there weren't leaks. It's held the charge - as we used A/C to & from Springfield.
I had considered trying to go unrestored with the car, but still need a stock catback, battery, and the correct Saleen-specific tires. Enjoying the challenge on Concours Driven so far. Doesn't seem like there are many entries in Concours Driven Saleen... :-\
On a personal note, best wishes to your wife - she's in our prayers.
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Looks like you guys were luckier than me with the filters. At least he took the bad ones back without any problems.
BobV, you've done a great job with the Saleen. I like the painted Motorcraft battery, Great idea. I may 'borrow' your idea for local shows. ;)
I have an extra NOS H-pipe (cats) is all have if you need, wish I had an extra complete set of exhaust. I try to baby mine as much as possible making sure all the condensation is out before I shut it off to try to keep the mufflers from rusting.
Unrestored is a great class if you have any original paperwork since you can get up to 10 bonus points for that.
I'm sure I will eventually run into you guys at a MCA show.
Thanks for the thoughts for the wife Bob I appreciate it.
mitch
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I ordered 4. The boxes were beat up a bit, but 3 of the filters look good. The 4th one looks like a candidate for grey engine paint. Fortunately, no rust.
Hope to see a few of you in Lincoln! I'm signed up to judge as well.
David - are you bringing your 79?
Yes, I was in the showcase row. There were extra headlight covers with the car, so they may have been yours!
I've had to do a LOT of polishing, cleaning, and TLC to get the car show-worthy. Tom provided a great canvas to work with though - mostly original paint, with all the Saleen-specific stuff intact. Yes, still R12 - used my LAST can of $.89 freon last year. It blows cold, although I did have some freeze-up trouble going thru Dallas last summer at 103*. A/C guy says I still need about 4-6 more oz of freon, but it wasn't worth tracking down another can until we knew there weren't leaks. It's held the charge - as we used A/C to & from Springfield.
I had considered trying to go unrestored with the car, but still need a stock catback, battery, and the correct Saleen-specific tires. Enjoying the challenge on Concours Driven so far. Doesn't seem like there are many entries in Concours Driven Saleen... :-\
On a personal note, best wishes to your wife - she's in our prayers.
First, I second Bob regarding your wife. She is in my prayers too.
Bob I will not be bringing my 79. I wish I could. My wife and I are flying to Nebraska just for this show. I try to judge one national show per year. Last year was Indy.
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I try to baby mine as much as possible making sure all the condensation is out before I shut it off to try to keep the mufflers from rusting.
mitch
Hi Mitch this sounds brilliant. I just purchased a NOS exhaust set for my 1979 and was worrying about the rust accumulation. Sorry to sound not smart on this, but how do you remove all the condensation prior to shut off? Do you run it until no condensation comes out?
Thanks for the tip!
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Thanks for the thoughts for my wife guys.
Nothing real high tech on the exhaust. I just never start the car unless I can get it to full operating temp. And always make sure no condensation or moisture is coming from the pipes before I shut it off. I occasionally will wipe the exhaust down with WD-40 also.
I think the biggest thing is trying to keep it from rusting from the inside out.
So far it has worked on the '86 for 28 years and 3x,xxx miles. :)
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Yes, I felt very lucky when I opened the filter boxes! :)
Hope to meet you at Lincoln, David. I'm signed up to help judge, and hoping to do Foxbodies (Saleen is in a separate class, so it's OK). Passed my test last winter, and have judged them locally several times. Has really helped with my own car. ;)
On the battery, I used the templates from http://myzephyrs.com/motorcraft_battery.htm , along with Krylon Fusion Flat White paint. Spent more time watching paint dry than working. It's held up well for over a year now. Seems to get a lot of attention...
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2013June/file_zps56b9a392.jpg)
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Yes, I felt very lucky when I opened the filter boxes! :)
Hope to meet you at Lincoln, David. I'm signed up to help judge, and hoping to do Foxbodies (Saleen is in a separate class, so it's OK). Passed my test last winter, and have judged them locally several times. Has really helped with my own car. ;)
On the battery, I used the templates from http://myzephyrs.com/motorcraft_battery.htm , along with Krylon Fusion Flat White paint. Spent more time watching paint dry than working. It's held up well for over a year now. Seems to get a lot of attention...
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT350Clone/1986Saleen/2013June/file_zps56b9a392.jpg)
Looks really good Bob. Jim(red78) has helped me a lot with his decals. Your battery looks great!
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Nice car and nice battery. I noticed the stamped in plastic serial number on the battery top. Is that a comfirmed assembly line battery or period correct replacement? I ask as I am still learning the details on these. I don't seem to recall seeing the stamping on my battery. I will have to look now. Was there a date sticker on the side like we see today?
Gray painted embossed oil filters are MCA accepted as well. Be sure to avoid the non-embossed made in Mexico filters for show.
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MCA magazine Mustang Times took some photos after the Springfield MCA show so maybe it will be in the magazine at some point.
Seems like the original white battery is a tough piece, I noticed several people taking pics of the battery at the show.
People thought I was crazy driving the car up there and then putting in a dead battery for the show.
Mitch
Congrats Mitch - just saw the article in this month's Mustang Times! Looks great!
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Thanks! It took awhile, I was wondering if it would happen after the editor change.
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This is what the 1993 looks like