Topic: 1969 MACH 1 Original vs Dealer Installed Questions

[Bob Gaines]

At the end of the day all things considered the car is more desirable with power steering then without given the market value and option desirability. With my judges cap on a 69 Mach I in judged competition without power steering would raise more eyebrows (not in a admirable way) as unusual then one with .

[jwc66k]

Do I leave as found and keep it with power steering or do I match the Marti and return it to manual?   How does this affect the value ?

As a "driver", power steering might be a desirable add-on. My special order 69 Sportsroof (San Jose, May 69), 351W, 4v, 4sp, did not have power steering and I had no problems in either towing (a dune buggy) or "rat racing" (up some of the roads in the Santa Cruz Mountains).
As a car being shown and depending on class, I would be inclined to deduct points for - not as original (I'm a purist).
Jim

[J_Speegle]

In judging I would take notice just as I would with any detail presented might acknowledge it to the rest of the team or someone might make a comment about how big the original owners arms must have gotten . No different in seeing non power steering equipped Boss 302 or 428 cars. Just would find it interesting for a moment then move on. Often purpose purchased cars (cars they planned to do some racing with) would be ordered with PS or Disc brakes depending on how they planned on being used

[STAUBY38]

I will compile those items and see what the part numbers all say.  Car is tucked away for the moment so I have go there and start looking.  Great info   I appreciate it !  TBC. 

[Coralsnake]

Finding a car thats not a one of one is a much bigger challenge. A nice marketing gimmick, but not particularly informative for owners

[specialed]

Factory p/s cars had those 2 redish dye long well nuts pressed up into the lh frame rail hex shaped holes for installing the cast iron slave cyl bracket.  But if u bought a complete ford p/s kit from ford back in the late 60s those frame rail 2 nuts came with the kit and after they were pressed in place and u tighten the 2 bolts the top of the tall well nut  would spread apart and stay in place like a rivet would.  This is another way to tell a factory 4-speed car if the nuts are pressed into top of frame rail holes for the z-bar inner pivot bracket to be installed from factory.

[STAUBY38]

Ok Interesting, I will look at that and see what they look like.

[preaction]

In judging I would take notice just as I would with any detail presented might acknowledge it to the rest of the team or someone might make a comment about how big the original owners arms must have gotten . No different in seeing non power steering equipped Boss 302 or 428 cars. Just would find it interesting for a moment then move on. Often purpose purchased cars (cars they planned to do some racing with) would be ordered with PS or Disc brakes depending on how they planned on being used

Would this be a good reason to leave a Marti report on the dash of a car being judged at a MCA concours level even though I believe they are not used or required ?

[NoSize]

As a "driver", power steering might be a desirable add-on. My special order 69 Sportsroof (San Jose, May 69), 351W, 4v, 4sp, did not have power steering and I had no problems in either towing (a dune buggy) or "rat racing" (up some of the roads in the Santa Cruz Mountains).
As a car being shown and depending on class, I would be inclined to deduct points for - not as original (I'm a purist).
Jim

My 69 Mach 351W didn't have power steering AND had front drum brakes. 

[carlite65]

Would this be a good reason to leave a Marti report on the dash of a car being judged at a MCA concours level even though I believe they are not used or required ?

not in my opinion. when judges first approach and introduce themselves they are supposed to ask if there is anything unusual about the car. that is the time to present your information. you make your case and they can agree or disagree.

[preaction]

Thank you for the insight.