Author Topic: 65 Assmebly Line V8 Oil Filters  (Read 22188 times)

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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2011, 11:16:30 PM »
Bob,

I appreciate everything you have to offer this hobby.  I never intended to challenge your years of experience and first hand knowledge.  I just have experience in law enforcement investigation and am an engineer who enjoys playing "what if."
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Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2011, 11:53:38 PM »
 Brian,
I appreciate and respect your comments and I'm sure Bob, Jeff and every one else here does also. Some restorers in the hobby in my opinion try to over think the 60's era assembly line process and ad lib how they think or wish things were done rather than what really was typical Ford production at the time. Original cars are the real historians.
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2011, 12:10:18 PM »
If there are ANY unrestored cars anywhere, that still have their proven assembly-line installed oil filters on them, that have never been unscrewed...then yes...that's the gospel.

A 24 count case somewhere that is purported to be a box of assembly-line filters, just like they would look after an assembly-line engine (not crate engine) was painted and installed in a car, would not be gospel, in my humble opinion.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2015, 05:34:43 PM »
Dave-- I got my oil filter done last week.  Thanks for letting me use your artwork.  I modified your date code a bit.  Not sure exactly what the numbers mean so I went with what, I think, is a September 21, 1964 date code--my engine was built in December of '64 so that seems about right.
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2015, 10:11:26 AM »
Hey Gary,
Great Job! Can't wait to see your completed car someday. You stamped that perfectly. Let me know if i can be of any more help.
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2015, 10:25:24 AM »
Hey Gary,
Great Job! Can't wait to see your completed car someday.

I can't wait to see my car completed someday too!  Way funny--I'm at 98% right now. ;)
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2015, 08:27:17 AM »
Dave-- I got my oil filter done last week.  Thanks for letting me use your artwork.  I modified your date code a bit.  Not sure exactly what the numbers mean so I went with what, I think, is a September 21, 1964 date code--my engine was built in December of '64 so that seems about right.


If I can ask a question about the filter date code 2644.

I thought I read here that it decodes as month (2), year (64), day (4)?
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Re: 65 Oil Filter Stamp
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2015, 02:37:51 PM »

If I can ask a question about the filter date code 2644.

I thought I read here that it decodes as month (2), year (64), day (4)?
February 1964 4th.


Believe we would need more than one or two examples to figure out the dating pattern. With out more examples we're just guessing or "making" the date fit what we think it might be.

Just a thought
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65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2016, 02:25:35 PM »
I know I used to have it but can't seem to find a Rotunda stamp template for 65 oil filters.  Anyone have this??

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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2016, 08:20:48 AM »
Did you find one yet Charles--do you need to borrow mine?
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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2016, 01:07:53 PM »
Hopefully the one I sent USPS last week will make it.
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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #71 on: August 22, 2016, 02:10:08 PM »
Thanks to all that replied.  Looks like I'm good to go. 
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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2017, 07:14:22 PM »
Hi, I was looking for info on the 65 oil filter and came to this topic.... what would be the difference on applications (manufactured dates, plants, etc) on this black filter with the Rotunda R1-a red one?

I'm interested on buying this template.... if someone have it and willing to sell, please send me PM.....

Another doubt, which is exactly the filter you use to put this template on? Do you get a FL-1 filter or the Rotunda red one (R1-a) and just repaint it in black.... Is the FL-1 filter same size as R1-a?

I appreciate your help on replicating this filter.

Thank you,
Luis
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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2017, 07:30:03 PM »
Hi, I was looking for info on the 65 oil filter and came to this topic.... what would be the difference on applications (manufactured dates, plants, etc) on this black filter with the Rotunda R1-a red one?

I'm interested on buying this template.... if someone have it and willing to sell, please send me PM.....

Another doubt, which is exactly the filter you use to put this template on? Do you get a FL-1 filter or the Rotunda red one (R1-a) and just repaint it in black.... Is the FL-1 filter same size as R1-a?

I appreciate your help on replicating this filter.

Thank you,
Luis
Luis as far as a donor filter to paint black and use you have a couple of choices. Get the repro red filter with the double crimp fluting on the top and paint it black or buy a NOS red filter to paint black. Any other filter current FL1 included will look noticeably different then original. Unless everything else is Thoroughbred quality on your car(tires,battery etc. ) I would opt for the repro filter to use as a donor. The difference between the repro and original is minimal. The point is ,original is best but would not be consistent unless everything else is of the same level on the car IMO.
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Re: 65 Rotunda oil filter stamp template
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2017, 07:55:49 PM »
Thanks for the quick reply Bob!

And what about the differences on applications? I always knew that Red Rotunda filter is correct for late 64 and early 65' cars? What about this black one?

I will also appreciate if you could tell me about the template for a black one.

Thank you,
Luis
1965 WW Hardtop, 289-2V, 3-speed manual transmission. Unrestored. Assembled in Mexico on the time frame of: Oct 64-Feb 65.