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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: Polle on October 15, 2014, 05:37:10 AM

Title: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Polle on October 15, 2014, 05:37:10 AM
Hi,

from where I can find short front floor panel with correct ribbing, or still no available?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on October 15, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
I'm wondering the same thing.  I'm just starting to look around for this patch panel and can't seem to find it :-/
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: 67gtasanjose on October 15, 2014, 04:11:42 PM
My source claims to have ones THAT FITS FORD MUSTANG 64-73
21"WX23"L,
69-73 said to originally have DIFFERENT RIBBING
If this is any help, price is affordable

Richard
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: J_Speegle on October 16, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
69-73 said to originally have DIFFERENT RIBBING

Viewers can check out the article posted in the Library

- Fixing Reproduction Floor Pans for 69-70 Written and provided by Pat Whalen in the 70 Section
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Polle on October 17, 2014, 04:37:12 AM
I found this patch panels which seems to be correct for our 69-70 cars but price is quite high in my opinion.

http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/69panpatch.html

but somebody is reproducing those.

Jeff, thanks for that link. I already seen that and because of that I was assuming there must be reproductions available.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Polle on October 17, 2014, 04:43:02 AM
Now when I looked more carefully that How-To Section and "Fixing Reproduction Floor Pans for 69-70". There was actually used cheaper, more easily available patch panel. But 69-70 is reproduced by someone.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on October 17, 2014, 01:21:26 PM
Horse Heaven made one, not sure if they still do or not. I bought one of there passenger side, it is in my scrap pile.

http://www.horseheavenmustang.com/


Post when i found them. The one I received was no where near as good as what they had pictured, picture sin the post were from their site.:

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/vintage-mustang-forum/511253-does-anyone-make-correct-ribbing-pans-1969-a.html

Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Jeff, thanks for that link. I already seen that and because of that I was assuming there must be reproductions available.

No problem just needed to mention it just in case.

One of the challenges with redoing these cars is that sometimes there are reproduction, sometimes there were reproductions and sometimes we hope there will be a reproduction ;)   Then we hope that the reproduction is a good/correct one    ::)

Good luck with your project
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on October 18, 2014, 02:21:32 AM
I found this patch panels which seems to be correct for our 69-70 cars but price is quite high in my opinion.

http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/69panpatch.html

but somebody is reproducing those.

Jeff, thanks for that link. I already seen that and because of that I was assuming there must be reproductions available.

I called WCCC not too long ago asking if / when they will get these back in stock.  I was told they haven't had them in stock in quite a long time and are not sure when or if they will get them again.  :-/
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Polle on October 20, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
Thanks guys for your comments. Have to figure out something and maybe to use those less correct ones to get floor back to shape.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on October 20, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
I sent an email to Horse Heaven's address from their website and inquired about availability;

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I am currently waiting for new blanks to arrive, but should be shipping by Thursday, 10/23.  $90 for one panel or $145 for two, includes shipping.  Panel runs from factory front seam to a couple inches past the seat platform front edge, and from rocker-panel pinch weld to inboard of the frame rail, though usually people make the seam along the top of the frame rail to hide it.

- Harland

I'm wondering if it might be best to find someone with some donor sheet metal they might part with.  Heck, I'm probably gonna need complete rear quarters anyhow, so maybe I should start scouting for a whole donor car, LOL / cry!
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on October 21, 2014, 08:57:52 AM
This is how I created mine. If I were to do it again I will use a 71-73 floorpan & section it, inseting a 2" strip to elongate the "fingers".

The last picture is the HH patch in my scrap pile.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on October 22, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
This is how I created mine. If I were to do it again I will use a 71-73 floorpan & section it, inseting a 2" strip to elongate the "fingers".

The last picture is the HH patch in my scrap pile.

So what was wrong with the HH patch?  It looks a little wrinkley to me in places, but is there something else about it that made you scrap it?
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on October 22, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
It is virtually flat on the spine, very poor definition. While I know no reproduction parts are perfect this one if not worth the effort in my opinion.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on October 23, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
It is virtually flat on the spine, very poor definition. While I know no reproduction parts are perfect this one if not worth the effort in my opinion.

Good to know, thanks!

The more I think about it, the more I think a donor car will be my best option.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Bossbill on August 08, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
Yeah, this one is real old.

I checked the WCCC site and these are still available.
https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/69panpatch.html

Anyone used them lately and can verify quality?
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Armond on August 08, 2020, 08:05:03 PM
I bought one from them and used one on a car some years ago and I had to do some dolly work on the ribbing because it was not correct, but it worked out.  Theirs were more pitched at the top of the ribbing and I used a bar of steel that matched the original ribbing to work it out.  Good luck!
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: Bossbill on August 08, 2020, 09:44:28 PM
Thanks Armond.
I saw the Boss302.com (copied here I think) write-up about cutting that section out of another floor section and I think this is slightly less hastle as the welds are further from the reinforcement ribs. Given the thickness I'll have to use the other Canadian floor replacement sections to match.
I saw this:
https://www.ssccontrols.com/product/touch4/
and thought it would be a good way to TIG this thing in. I like TIG for butt joints because it makes a solid weld all the way through with very little final finishing. But TIG with a foot pedal is a PIA.
The roller throttle on TIG torches are hard to use, so this may work out better!
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: J_Speegle on August 09, 2020, 07:14:37 PM
Thanks Armond.
I saw the Boss302.com (copied here I think) write-up about cutting that section out of another floor section and I think this is slightly less hastle as the welds are further from the reinforcement ribs. Given the thickness I'll have to use the other Canadian floor replacement sections to match.


For others there is also an article posted in our Library in the 69 + 70 sections by. I believe, the same person as posted on the Boss site. Not that that is a bad resource in any way

Here it's labeled

Fixing Reproduction Floor Pans for 69-70
 69-70 Floor Pan Fixes
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: J_Speegle on June 24, 2022, 06:59:39 PM
Posted a comparison picture on another site and though readers might benefit from seeing the visual differences between a 68 (on top) to a 69 (on bottom)

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-240622175729-174561567.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: HDAshmore on June 24, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
Contact Bob Wilson at RJ Restorations.  He had a source and still may.  He put them in my son's 70 Mach 1.

Dan in Kansas
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on June 26, 2022, 12:49:51 AM
Depending on the damage and how creative/skilled you are it is possible to use the 71-73 patch panel to repair. As well I saw a post somewhere there is a new version of the patch panel that includes the ?tail? section that extends under the seat platform. The origins panels Simone stamped several years ago did not include this detail. If I run across that post I will add a link here.
Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on June 26, 2022, 12:58:44 AM
Found them on eBay, priced way too high, and wccc also lists them but out of stock:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224944493229

https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/Mercury_Cougar_Floor_Pans.html?sessionthemeid=26

Title: Re: 1969-1970 short front floor panel patch still available?
Post by: jmlay on June 26, 2022, 01:04:08 AM
Found the post on the boss302/429 forum:

https://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=88830.msg583756#msg583756