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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Misc Items => Topic started by: Dan Juhasz on March 21, 2016, 12:48:05 PM

Title: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Dan Juhasz on March 21, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
years back some one was reproducing the paper tag that usually wrapped around the left side axle tube. Remember I bought one for a 69 Mach. Are these still made and where are they available?
thks
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Crgjohnson on March 21, 2016, 02:12:06 PM
Marti auto works has them
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Dan Juhasz on March 21, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
I know they have the aluminum tags but I'm referring to the paper tag, they have that also?
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Crgjohnson on March 21, 2016, 02:25:45 PM
Yes they also have the paper tag that wraps the axle.

http://www.martiauto.com/itemselection.cfm?item=TAGA-65&selecteditem=yes
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: dieseldave on March 21, 2016, 02:51:44 PM
Paper tag here.
http://www.deadnutson.com/catalog/item/4367174/4327044.htm
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 21, 2016, 06:51:27 PM
Don't know if all applications are being made but commercially Jack is the only one I'm aware of that is selling them
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: specialed on March 21, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
dave riley makes the paper tags  I have a green late 70 paper tag & I think 71 is green paper also  don't know if its worth making the later version
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 21, 2016, 11:57:24 PM
dave riley makes the paper tags  I have a green late 70 paper tag & I think 71 is green paper also  don't know if its worth making the later version

Ed have you ever compared to see if the color relates to the gearing?
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Crgjohnson on March 22, 2016, 11:41:50 AM
Sorry. You are right the Marti Auto tag is the metal tag and not the paper wrap decal. I did get my paper tag from Jack at Dead Nuts On. Jack is a great guy and easy to work with.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 22, 2016, 01:03:40 PM
Ed have you ever compared to see if the color relates to the gearing?
Brown toast seems consistent.  No wait that is what they typically turn to from white. ;D
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: nham3407 on March 22, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
Jack helped me with my 72 tag 2:75 open rearend
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 23, 2016, 06:50:35 PM
Brown toast seems consistent.  No wait that is what they typically turn to from white. ;D

Reason I ask is I've got examples of white, pale green, pale blue and  red originals across the classic period
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 23, 2016, 08:43:00 PM
Reason I ask is I've got examples of white, pale green, pale blue and  red originals across the classic period
Only one I have never seen is a 4.30 label all the others appear to have been White.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: specialed on March 23, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
whats paper color got to do with the size of gears as the code told you what gears were inside.   We had a 2000 mi. late 70 b2 in shop years ago  & the tag was completely around housing yet in excellent shape & paper tag was green.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 24, 2016, 04:15:51 PM
whats paper color got to do with the size of gears as the code told you what gears were inside.   We had a 2000 mi. late 70 b2 in shop years ago  & the tag was completely around housing yet in excellent shape & paper tag was green.

Like colored paint marks - there is a possibility that the worker could use it to quickly identify the correct rearend for a specific car coming down the line.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: specialed on March 24, 2016, 07:57:56 PM
I only heard of the green tag on 70 71 housings & thinking only change was rear sway bar plate bolted on top of shock plate or 7071 had  different wheel cly.  & brake line bends & brake hose change.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 25, 2016, 03:48:35 PM
Have a number of examples of the one marked 982A in both light greenish and in the white
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: 67gta289 on March 27, 2016, 08:39:41 AM
Not from a Boss, but ran across this picture I have this morning and thought it would be interesting.  This is from 8F01T1822xx which was claimed to be a 1,000 mile car.  See the pics of the rear axle paper tag, or at least what looks like one.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: 67gta289 on March 27, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
One more, found online for sale a while back. 7T03T2225.  Don't recall reading about paper tags that far back.  I'm actually looking through cars for rear axle brake line details and ran across these tags - not looking for them specifically.  Another red one for a T code.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 27, 2016, 01:05:52 PM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  Another red one for a T code.


Had a copy of the 68 but had not seen the 67.

Have red ones on 9" and 8" examples back to 65 also.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Murf on March 27, 2016, 03:23:56 PM
Since this discussion has been expanded to 65 and 66, the red tags on the early year cars typically were found on cars with limited slip differentials while the white tags were used on single wheelers.
(this applies to v8 cars only as the six cylinder cars were never my focus).   Mike Murray has (or did have) a red tag on one of his cars that was still readable a few years ago when I examined it.  The date plate verified that the car had a limited slip differential.  Maybe Mike will see this post and verify with an image. 
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 27, 2016, 05:55:08 PM
............ Mike Murray has (or did have) a red tag on one of his cars that was still readable a few years ago when I examined it.  The date plate verified that the car had a limited slip differential.  Maybe Mike will see this post and verify with an image.


Two of Mike's cars - A code with the white label and C code with the red label.  My collection of early cars is too small to draw any patterns from


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-270316165251-542388.jpeg)
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: preaction on March 27, 2016, 07:00:53 PM
Did all mustangs have this paper ID on the axle ?
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 27, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
Did all mustangs have this paper ID on the axle ?

IMHO its possible - challenge is that we don't have enough supporting evidence to know what all of them looked like or the other details. Example would include this discussion about appropriate color of paper and its meaning if any
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Mike_B_SVT on March 29, 2016, 02:29:00 AM
This is the only one I can contribute.  1970 Boss 302 Cougar Eliminator - Dearborn, Oct 13th, 1969 build date.  V-code / 3.91 traction lok rear axle ratio.  Paper color... umm... brown?   ???

(http://i.imgur.com/OIKD2wS.jpg)
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: rodster on March 29, 2016, 11:18:58 PM
Same color brown here too!  We are on to something.  ;)

67 Dearborn
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: J_Speegle on March 29, 2016, 11:42:48 PM
Same color brown here too!  We are on to something.  ;)
67 Dearborn

8 inch?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Of course by mixing all these different years and application we're likely just going to muddy the research waters.

But here goes :)

67 6 cyl

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-290316223836-54291583.jpeg)


68 6 cyl
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-290316223841-54311103.jpeg)

68 6 cyl

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-290316223839-54302364.jpeg)


*** And just when you think they are color coded by rearend size you get ............


68 390 S code

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-290316223842-54322323.jpeg)

71 F code

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-290316223835-5428906.jpeg)

Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: rodster on March 30, 2016, 12:31:41 AM
8 inch?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


9 inch.   I was just kidding about the color. (Brown=patina)  Can't really tell what the original color was.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 30, 2016, 02:48:32 AM
9 inch.   I was just kidding about the color. (Brown=patina)  Can't really tell what the original color was.
I had a nice one my 67 SJ Sept 67 build 9 inch . It was white with just a little tan patina from age. It was for a 3.89. I have seen many others that were white under the patina also .I sent mine to Kevin M at his request so he could start duplicating them . He lost it . I got over it . He is still my friend although I was upset when it happened.
Title: Re: Rearend Housing Paper label
Post by: rodster on March 30, 2016, 10:09:34 AM
I had a nice one my 67 SJ Sept 67 build 9 inch . It was white with just a little tan patina from age. It was for a 3.89. I have seen many others that were white under the patina also .I sent mine to Kevin M at his request so he could start duplicating them . He lost it . I got over it . He is still my friend although I was upset when it happened.

If I had to guess, I'd say the original color could have been white as I don't see any signs of color. Maybe if loosen the U bolts and slide the tag out I could tell where the tag was never exposed but not sure I'm that curious at this point.  ;)

That's a bummer about losing an original.