ConcoursMustang Forums
1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1968 Mustang => Topic started by: Sunlitgold68 on March 05, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
-
I believe something was left off during the final phase of my assembly. I've always seen "Paint OK" yellow markings on all 68's from Metuchen on the inner fender and hood to cowl area. Did all cars receive this marking or was this applied at random?
-
All NJ cars would have originally had the paint inspected (as well as other inspections) and stamps placed in the typical locations. Yes one could have been mis-stamped but more likely it was rubbed at some point and the ink didn't remain. These stamps are pretty delicate.
For that plant and year there should be a number of different stamps and in many locations. Normally you will see a PAINT O.K. and a BODY PAINT stampings (top line) on the cowl as well as fenders and hood
Inspectors can be identified by their number or name and if the inspector that shift was a fill in guy from another assignment then a stamped marked SPARE was used
-
Where can someone get these stampings and how do you get the correct shade of yellow?
-
Where can someone get these stampings
You make them or have someone that has the correct ones for 68 stamp them for you at a show. IF you make them make sure to make them smaller than the original stamp you find on the car since the expansion and slippage of the original application makes the resulting ink stamp larger than the rubber stamp ;)
how do you get the correct shade of yellow?
You match or mix to get the right color. Have found some rattle cans that are very close IMHO
-
I don't have an extensive collection of photos and examples like Jeff, but I have recorded all that I have seen (on original cars) for the past several years. The majority have been Metuchen, when was your car assembled and I'll check what I have.
Danny
-
May 14th.
-
Here is a picture of 7T01C186356, the stamp used is typical of '67 and '68's from the Metuchen plant. BALON was working there in both years. This particular car was stamped on both the driver's side and passenger side of the cowl and both D/S and P/S fender aprons. Most common from the small sample I have is the passenger side cowl and both fender aprons. Most of my examples also are stamped on the fender aprons and not the fender themselves in 67-68. I have seen both ways. The stamp I have closest to your build date is "PAINT O.K VENTRIGLIA", but I also have BALON before and after your build date. Danny
(http://i55.tinypic.com/5206t4.jpg)
-
Thanks for the photo. I have a feeling the yellow won't show up so well on my sunlit gold color but not sure. I'd like to put these marks on mine but I don't have the stamps.
-
Thanks for the photo. I have a feeling the yellow won't show up so well on my sunlit gold color but not sure. I'd like to put these marks on mine but I don't have the stamps.
Here is a sample of the contrast - not Sunlit gold but sort of close
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/68NJStampongold.jpg)
-
that shows up pretty well.
-
Are there any other PAINT OK stampings besides the cowl area and the 2 fenders? Jeff mentioned a stamping on the hood too, I've yet to see one of those.
-
I did not overlook puting the paint quality stamps on your car. As I told you several times, I do not add assembly line marks to a mustang; I only duplicate what I find or see as proof being on the car. Your car had no proof of who were the paint quality inspectors or where they applied their stamps. Show me proof and I will happlily put them on.
It is very unlikely that the fender quality stamps would match the cowl area stamps as the hood/fender inspection was not done in the same area and where the body was inspected. (The hood/fenders were painted in a different area and had different inspectors.) I have seen more hood quality stamps on 65-66 mustangs, but have seen at least 1 on a 67 (2010 VA Beach National show). Have not seen any yet on a 68.
Regards,
Pete Morgan
-
Never seen hood stamp on 68 NJ
-
Never seen hood stamp on 68 NJ
Just so you can say you've seen one :)
You can make out the top line but the inspector didn't get the stamp flush so the name is not there
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/8T01J199274hoodpaintmark.jpg)
-
Just so you can say you've seen one :)
You can make out the top line but the inspector didn't get the stamp flush so the name is not there
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/8T01J199274hoodpaintmark.jpg)
I guess considering what hoods the vast majority of 68 NJ cars I see have I shouldn't be surprised ;)
-
This is the only posting I was able to find on 1968 Metuchen paint inspector stamps.
I assume this thread is still accurate although seems to be missing some photos. Working on a May 1968 build now and assume Paint OK Adam was used in this time frame because I think that was also seen in 1969. Any additional photos or input would be great if anyone has anything to add here.
-
http://www.thecoralsnake.com/Inspectors.html
-
Thats perfect. You must have knew I was going to ask that question! :)
-
This is the only posting I was able to find on 1968 Metuchen paint inspector stamps.
I assume this thread is still accurate although seems to be missing some photos. Working on a May 1968 build now and assume Paint OK Adam was used in this time frame because I think that was also seen in 1969. Any additional photos or input would be great if anyone has anything to add here.
From examples I have in one of my files from cars scheduled for May 68 at NJ I've got the following (Likely have more in picture form)
PAINT O.K. MARTZ On the PS transition panel
BODY PAINT O.K. 34 On DS Cowl
PAINT O.K. #2 ?2 On PS Fender
PAINT O.K. Q. C. SPARE #3 On the PS transition panel
BODY PAINT O.K. 2? On DS Cowl
PAINT O.K. #2.-2 On PS Fender
PAINT O.K. MARTZ On cowl
PAINT OK VENTRIGLIA On PS Cowl
PAINT OK KERWIN On DS Fender
Thought it might be helpful to see a series of pictures of the Paint OK and the Body Paint stamps from a single car in a group to get a better feel and understanding so here are two. Both are 68 Shelby's so they would lack the hood stamp applied to the bottom side of the metal hoods on Mustangs Both are in the 8T205xxx range. If it helps pictures are arranged as you would see them when standing at the front of the car looking rearward. Passenger side on left drivers side on right. Hope this helps
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-291023161607-19669828.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-291023161610-19671101.jpeg)
-
First thought I would post some examples from through-out the production year.
For a Mustang the location and area for the hood stamp is shown in that earlier picture. Mentioning this since allot of the markings we find today are on Shelby's so they didn't have that marking since the hoods for them were not installed at Ford. For specifically the May 68 period and around that time I added some of those to the reply above.
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-291023161607-196691687.jpeg)
8K views of this thread on this date. Must be a popular one :)
-
So we can assume the hood stamp and the fender stamp is the same inspector and the body paint on the cowl area is a different inspector. Thats what I assume.
Has anyone seen stamps in or around the trunk area or on the trunk lid for the NJ built cars?
Jeff...from your examples this is probably the most interesting one. Never seen one like that.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53296947989_1024ff4339_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pcEMNn)2023-10-29_22-47-33 (https://flic.kr/p/2pcEMNn) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr
Ive also seen examples where the paint stamp on the fender looks like it was clearly stamped before there was any fender bolt installed. You have one example shown that you posted.
-
Seems that some Metuchen inspectors wanted to make sure you could read the stamping or someone wanted them clear so they could hold some one responsible. Have one 69 example where the inspector stamped a location three times all at different angles within about 6" of each other like he wasn't happy or trying to make a point or send a message to whom ever might be checking this sort of things. Workers were not always happy campers
Ive also seen examples where the paint stamp on the fender looks like it was clearly stamped before there was any fender bolt installed. You have one example shown that you posted.
Will check but of course that would support/suggest that the individual parts were inspected by another inspector, than the one doing the unibody, over near where the parts were painted in the plant like San Jose did through the years. Haven't sat down and laid the examples I have so that we could compare, on cars with multiple original inspector stamps still legible to see if they fit the same pattern as San Jose. Maybe someone else has done that