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Offline 67gta289

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67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« on: September 18, 2011, 11:31:43 AM »
What should the finish be on the bracket that mounts the electrical switch shown in the attached picture?  Mine has surface rust - other items in that area do not, so would it make sense that it was unfinished? Thanks, John  Dec 20, 1966 SJ
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 12:18:41 PM »
Phosphate and oil. Marty

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 10:58:30 PM »
Ben here is a picture of our 67 GTA convertible  W/ tilt and fog light switch. Our car was built 11-4-66 at the SJ plant all though I believe all plants were consistant in location.  The picture that Steve posted shows the correct location of the light. I have another car with both but it is not near by. If you need a picture of it I can get one latter.   Hope this helps. Marty

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 02:13:02 AM »
Marty, I don't believe that I have ever seen the tilt vacuum solenoid mounted anywhere but the steering column. Was that an early San Jose thing?
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2012, 09:41:14 AM »
Scott I was not aware that there was another way 67 vacuum solenoid mounted. This car was a very original car when I got it. It had been in storage for 15 years. The reason it did not have the reminder light next to the fog light switch is because it has the convenience light option and the seat belt reminder light is in the console.

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2012, 11:28:24 AM »
Thanks so much for the pictures guys!  You guys are awesome!
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 03:34:27 PM »
Scott,
Here is a diagram of the 67 tilt wheel from a Ford manual that I have. Have you seen a different arrangement?

Ben,
 Here is another car with the seat belt reminder. The 67 owner manual shows the fog light switch to the left of the seat belt reminder.
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 05:34:59 PM »
Marty, I don't believe that I have ever seen the tilt vacuum solenoid mounted anywhere but the steering column. Was that an early San Jose thing?

Believe it was more a 67 thing  but will look at more examples - though we might need to move or start a new thread ;)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 05:38:10 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 06:37:34 PM »
Yes Jeff it may be better to split it.

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 07:08:46 PM »
Scott,
Here is a diagram of the 67 tilt wheel from a Ford manual that I have. Have you seen a different arrangement?

Ben,
 Here is another car with the seat belt reminder. The 67 owner manual shows the fog light switch to the left of the seat belt reminder.

OK, I see what's going on. Marty, it appears that the bracket is mounted backwards, and shouldn't the bracket be on the inside with the bolt head out?
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 12:11:19 PM »
You could be right. I can not tell much from the digram in the Assembly manual. It made more sense to be under the panel because there is a 1/4' lip on the top side and the bracket would not sit flat.
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 12:28:33 PM »
Something else I discovered when searching through the tilt digrams was the location of the tilt vacuum can. Was it mounted under the battery tray or mounted on the upper RH apron where the AC can would be? You can see both locations in these digrams? Secondly was there to be one or two vacuum line to the can. Once again these digrams show both. In the drawing where the can is mounted under the battery tray it is attached with a small bracket 3F547. Does anyone have one that I could buy or make a pattern from? Marty

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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 05:36:07 PM »
Marty, the vacuum canister location is yet one more item subject to changes in 67.  Could also have been variations due to options also - but probably just a  running change thing.  The diagrams you mentioned generally are the latest revision, and show where they ended up (possibly in 68) - not where they started.  I've seen the early model year cars with the canister located directly below the passenger side hinge in the engine compartment.  On cars without, in that area there are two dimples in the sheet metal that line up with the canister bracket.  There is also reference to canisters that are mounted under the battery in the fender well (and subject to objects thrown by tires) but I have not seen one like that for 67 - I'm thinking 68 but don't have facts to back that up. 

I think there are other posts about this here - including style/location as well as hose type/stripe colors.  There are some older posts for sure on the vintage mustang forum if not here.

Some pictures below.  The one named 11-10-66 can is the style that I have also (Dec 66).  I have a collection of 3 or 4 of this type at this point.  Yes I can stop collecting now, I know.  But you know how you keep finding deals that you can't pass up?  As for connections, this style has two for sure, one to the manifold and the other to the column.  There is a separate metal check valve, stamped from a company called "Trico" or "Trinco" - don't recall.  I can dig that out and provide some pics if you need it.

The Cougars had a much larger canister for the hide away headlamps, located I think on the driver's side behind the headlight under the fender.
John
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 05:37:19 PM »
Almost forgot - the previous pictures are courtesy of Mr. Speegle IIRC.  Who else keeps such copious notes ;)
John
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Re: 67 Tilt Steering Wheel/Column Discussion
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2012, 02:05:02 AM »
Since the subject of canisters, different versions and mounting locations you might also include the battery tray differences also ;)


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