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Title: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 22, 2015, 12:20:46 PM
Put together a new guide on the different style snubber brackets to help identify what is correct for the different years.  Keep seeing these listed wrong on Ebay by different sellers so hopefully this will help those who are looking.

http://www.anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf (http://www.anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf)



(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z213/azscj/IMG_5228_zpsr41zn0gi.jpg)
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: PerkinsRestoration on January 22, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
 Nice work!
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: mtinkham on January 22, 2015, 01:21:54 PM
Excellent.

I always understood these to be natural or bare steel.  But, I recently read in an older post on this site that the snubber bracket was phosphate and oil.  Which is correct?

Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: carlite65 on January 22, 2015, 01:30:22 PM
great work there!! now if we could get someone to do a battery i.d. guide........
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: blackjadeboss on January 22, 2015, 01:48:52 PM
Nice snubbers! Great information once again Marcus.
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: PerkinsRestoration on January 22, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
Excellent.

I always understood these to be natural or bare steel.  But, I recently read in an older post on this site that the snubber bracket was phosphate and oil.  Which is correct?

Thanks,
Mark

Bare steel originally
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2015, 04:15:46 PM
Put together a new guide on the different style snubber brackets to help identify what is correct for the different years.  Keep seeing these listed wrong on Ebay by different sellers so hopefully this will help those who are looking.

http://www.anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf (http://www.anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf)



(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z213/azscj/IMG_5228_zpsr41zn0gi.jpg)
Marcus you may want to amend the text on the version #3.  That style was not only used "up to" but it was used into 68 production when it changed over sometime after the first of the year 68 to the last style.
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
Another well done article .   :)
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 22, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Sounds good Bob.  I actually had it referenced to change about Feb 1968 but didnt want to pin down such an exact date without hearing from others.  I can change the wording around a bit to indicate that time period.   
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2015, 04:32:13 PM
Sounds good Bob.  I actually had it referenced to change about Feb 1968 but didnt want to pin down such an exact date without hearing from others.  I can change the wording around a bit to indicate that time period.   
Marcus, I used "the first of the year" which would include Feb 68 for wiggle room because I am not sure of a exact definitive date ether . I know that they were changed by April just not sure how much before.
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Brian Conway on January 22, 2015, 07:58:40 PM
So here's a question actually two about my 69 9"; I have a pinion snubber in the floor not on the pinion and I don't know how to read the ' i ' with two dots below.  Little help ? Brian
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2015, 08:46:15 PM
So here's a question actually two about my 69 9"; I have a pinion snubber in the floor not on the pinion and I don't know how to read the ' i ' with two dots below.  Little help ? Brian
You have the correct 9 inch bracket in the floor but at some time in the past a PO has bolted the 8 inch? snubber where none should be. 9 inch rear Mustangs had the snubber incorporated into the shield.   
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: sgl66 on January 22, 2015, 09:04:20 PM
Well done Marcus.

My Oct 65 car has the early style shown used on 65 and carry over 66 cars however has the rubber snubber bolted to the plate welded to the chassis. Took a few close ups last year when starting a clean up.

Searched for images on Google and found a picture of a similar style snubber over on VMF. http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/vintage-mustang-forum/625566-how-can-i-tell-if-real-gt.html

Any idea why the difference? A Metuchen thing? Never heard of it being a factory GT thing. I've seen them before on other cars also but don't remember the details
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: J_Speegle on January 22, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
Nice work again Marcus - Will add a link in the Library for it


.......... I don't know how to read the ' i ' with two dots below.  Little help ? Brian

Seen that decoded (and has matched up on parts for me) as being 1971 suggesting as does the other features that some one in the past has assembled various pieces to make a third member installed in your car


Never heard of it being a factory GT thing......

Isn't - nor a K code thing
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: 70 Yellow B2 on January 23, 2015, 12:25:10 AM
Thanks again Marcus for another great guide.  I have learned allot and have used them quite a bit to identify parts and understand the differences in parts.

Tim
Title: 9 Inch Axle Pinion Snubber
Post by: lightwtjet on April 13, 2024, 12:52:10 AM
I found detailed information on 9 inch axle pinion snubbers done by Anghel Restorations.
https://anghelrestorations.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf

   Our thanks to Anghel restorations for the research done on this. With the various designs that evolved I am wondering if the bracket was getting bent or damaged in use.
   Ford Product Development determined that pinion snubbers were needed when an axle and driveshaft went into full jounce to minimize the sharp jolt (thump) a customer would experience and to prevent the driveshaft from hitting the tunnel and damaging it. On a new car design or an increase in driveshaft diameter we had to do a vehicle test for clearance. To worst case the test we would remove the rubber bumper and put 400 lbs in the trunk and then use the test track to achieve full jounce
Title: Re: 9 Inch Axle Pinion Snubber
Post by: J_Speegle on April 13, 2024, 06:13:53 PM
I found detailed information on 9 inch axle pinion snubbers done by Anghel Restorations.
https://anghelrestorations.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/pinion_snubber_v1.0.pdf


Yes nice work and thanks for the insight. Hard to believe that almost ten years has passed since it was posted. BTW the article is also posted in the Library section of this site with Marcus' permission  ;)
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: Anghelrestorations on April 13, 2024, 06:35:46 PM
I feel old all of a sudden..... :-\
Title: Re: Guide to Original 1965 to 1973 Snubber Brackets
Post by: RoyceP on April 14, 2024, 12:47:02 PM
So here's a question actually two about my 69 9"; I have a pinion snubber in the floor not on the pinion and I don't know how to read the ' i ' with two dots below.  Little help ? Brian


The two dots signify the second decade of production. Ford did not use the "I" because they did not want anyone to confuse it with a "1" which means that part was cast in 1971.