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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Mustang => Topic started by: 70Mach on March 25, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
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I located a used D4 battery shield for a 1970 Group 27 battery. It's faded to a gray color on the inside, brownish black on the outside. Was the D0 originally black or a brown/black color color? Would the proper finish look be flat or semi-gloss? Thanks, Adam
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As a member, you should go to the LIBRARY section of Concours Mustang Forum and look up the articles for your 70 Mustang. Just a couple items down the list, you will find an article on Battery Shields. See if that helps you answer the question. If nothing else, you will learn a few things about "Correctness" and how to identify the "right stuff" for your car.
Richard
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. At a $150 for "near correctness" vs $1,000 for a correct battery shield and $ not falling out of my pockets, near correct will have to do.
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I located a used D4 battery shield for a 1970 Group 27 battery. It's faded to a gray color on the inside, brownish black on the outside. Was the D0 originally black or a brown/black color color? Would the proper finish look be flat or semi-gloss? Thanks, Adam
They were originally both pretty much the same color - since they were made out of the same/similar material. Of course batches might have varied a little (very little IMHO) from batch to batch. Age, the elements, sun exposure, heat and other things can effect what they look like today.
The original outer surface would have been very smooth out of the pressurized mold which would have look on the shinny side in the sun before all the scratches and handling started.
Think there is at least a couple of heat shield threads in addition to the article in the library on this site. At least I think so - have posted the pictures and information so many times over the years on different forums
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Thanks for the input on the finish. I didn't know that Marcus had done an article on the battery shields, so reviewing that helped. I love his attention to detail. Thanks for the help!
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...and for those willing to shell out the dough...Here's a link to the 1K version:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/70-Mustang-Boss-302-Shelby-Mach1-Battery-Heat-Shield-Original-/381005300033?hash=item58b5af8141&vxp=mtr
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Not easy to find in good condition - sold my last one to Scott (sah62) who was going to look into reproducing some.
A friend made a run of maybe 10 of these maybe 20 years ago on a prototype machine. Might be an interesting project for someone with some time, skill and access to a 3D printer - just for fun. I've got enough to do :)
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Not easy to find in good condition - sold my last one to Scott (sah62) who was going to look into reproducing some.
True - every once in a while I dig into this again to see if the tooling costs have become more reasonable. It would still be a pretty expensive project.
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True - every once in a while I dig into this again to see if the tooling costs have become more reasonable. It would still be a pretty expensive project.
Back when I was thinking (well a little more than thinking) of doing the C7 version in the 80's= early 90's I was going to use aluminum for the mold - meant that the molds would wear out much quicker and lose detail also quicker but figured I wasn't going to make 700- +
Sure everything is more expensive but then again I would only planning on using local people not anywhere in South East Asia
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Somebody in Pa. is or is planning to reproduce the D0OB heat shield. I posted here since it looks like a limited run is planned. I do not know the seller only I spotted it earlier this week and thought of this thread when I saw it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/70-71-72-73-ford-mustang-boss-302-351c-428cj-scj-cougar-D0OB-battery-heatshield-/252727669244?hash=item3ad7be31fc:g:5Z8AAOSwZQRYfU~8&vxp=mtr
Hope it helps some of you who are in search of this later version.
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Somebody in Pa. is or is planning to reproduce the D0OB heat shield. I posted here since it looks like a limited run is planned. I do not know the seller only I spotted it earlier this week and thought of this thread when I saw it.
Yes the guy has been posting over on the Boss site for a year or so now as the process has been progressing. Appears to be a truthful reproduction though have not yet held one in my had to look at
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Here is a link to his posts on a few other forums. I forget which require membership to view, sorry.
http://torinocobra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38395
https://www.428cobrajet.org/forum/index.php?topic=22860.0;all
http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=74194.0
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Here is my one original I have for my car. It is a green shade.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k297/Armond61/ggboss2008_zps329c1069.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/Armond61/media/ggboss2008_zps329c1069.jpg.html)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k297/Armond61/ggboss2009_zps368fdf5e.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/Armond61/media/ggboss2009_zps368fdf5e.jpg.html)
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Here is my one original I have for my car. It is a green shade.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k297/Armond61/ggboss2009_zps368fdf5e.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/Armond61/media/ggboss2009_zps368fdf5e.jpg.html)
Yours is the C7 version, correct through the 69 model year. The D0OB version had yet to be reproduced for the 1970-73 models. The C7 version had been available for a while now in reproduction, though in more of a black color (not green/grey as various originals seem to appear on some models)
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Here is my one original I have for my car. It is a green shade.
Armond, I was just talking to Ed Meyer about these heat shields this past week. He suggested that the C7 shield used on Mustangs was originally trimmed along the trailing edge right around where the engineering number can be seen in your picture. Ed said that the long, untrimmed version was used on Fairlanes and Torinos. Ed's info is consistent with Marcus' article. Are you sure that the one you have is a factory-installed original part?
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armond isn't that the heat shield we found on the 68 torino in ca.yard ? Has anybody found a green shield on a 69mustang from factory? Have seen green shields in factory pictures in Magazines on early test 69 cj cars but I have documented black shields on several original owner cj cars but they were built after jan 69 so don't know about any fall 68 built cj cars & it may depend on the plant supply changeover to black when the green shields were used up.
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I am not sure what it came off of. I did some trading for it a number of years ago with a customer, I restored his Boss 302. As far as trimming, I thought they only trimmed them if they used the smaller battery. It is one of my Favorites items I picked up for my car. Sorry I high jacked the thread.
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I haven't seen a greenish tint plastic shield on anything I've looked at or found
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That's because no body re installed them! I guess......
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armond isn't that the heat shield we found on the 68 torino in ca.yard ? Has anybody found a green shield on a 69mustang from factory? Have seen green shields in factory pictures in Magazines on early test 69 cj cars but I have documented black shields on several original owner cj cars but they were built after jan 69 so don't know about any fall 68 built cj cars & it may depend on the plant supply changeover to black when the green shields were used up.
Ed is what is being referred to as the green shield also what some refer to as "gray" ? Or is the gray style something different?
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That's because no body re installed them! I guess......
Yes allot of them got tossed but looking through yards for lots of years still found at least 100 over the years - also did look through the other 70's for comparison and for ones that would substitute for the originals
Ed is what is being referred to as the green shield also what some refer to as "gray" ? Or is the gray style something different?
Believe he's referencing the greenish one that Armond shared rather than the some times seen gray version
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Yes allot of them got tossed but looking through yards for lots of years still found at least 100 over the years - also did look through the other 70's for comparison and for ones that would substitute for the originals
Believe he's referencing the greenish one that Armond shared rather than the some times seen gray version
It may be my monitor but it could also be described as gray from my perspective looking at it . It looks more gray then green (my monitor) is the reason for asking .
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I only refered back to the color green in armonds post but the early version is grayish greenish & when you find them faded from heat & sun in yards out west they are a lighter color till you clean them off & get rid of the oxidation & corrosion from battery acid leak.
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My information has that green battery shield was an export-version only to Ireland....
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Since I am 20% Irish according to my DNA, that makes it even better.......
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Armond is correct the gray heat shields have a green tint . Exposure to the elements tend to lighten them. I've pictured a good original and you can see the inside has a greenish hue. The picture of 69 Mach 1 original Paint 11,000 miles retains it's original battery heat shield.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/fn7khk.jpg)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2upts9y.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/hvteed.jpg)
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Thanks for the pictures Bob!
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Yes, great photo with lots of info. Thanks, Brian
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SO green is in the eye of the beholder - and how digital camera seem to reproduce it. Thanks - will stop looking for "green" battery shields :)