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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: socalgt on May 28, 2015, 10:17:27 PM

Title: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: socalgt on May 28, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
I've seen the coil mounted horizontally on the right side of the intake manifold....and vertically, on the right front of the engine.  Where was it mounted at the factory?
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: J_Speegle on May 28, 2015, 10:32:36 PM
I've seen the coil mounted horizontally on the right side of the intake manifold....and vertically, on the right front of the engine.  Where was it mounted at the factory?

You've likely been looking at cars that were "restored" or from other plants, options and time periods


Looks like its passenger side head for your application

7T01C119xxx

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7T02C199xxx

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Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: 67gta289 on May 28, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
A minor technicality is that if thermactor equipped, the coil would be mounted on the intake.  That said, a Metuchen built car with a Californian DSO, or a non Californian DSO but with the thermactor option, would be rare.  But I bet there was at least one built.  Always a safe bet 8)

In other words, what Jeff said...
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: socalgt on May 29, 2015, 12:22:52 AM
Thanks....one(or more)pictures is worth 1,000 words.
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: J_Speegle on May 29, 2015, 05:20:03 AM
A minor technicality is that if thermactor equipped, the coil would be mounted on the intake.  That said, a Metuchen built car with a Californian DSO, or a non Californian DSO but with the thermactor option, would be rare.  But I bet there was at least one built.

I'ld bet that the NJ car built with a DSO was a non-Thermactor car.    But we're going to get way too far off thread chasing that rabbit/line of discussion  :o
Title: ignition coil location
Post by: 68 GT on July 26, 2022, 04:38:16 AM
For a 67 NJ car, 289, C4, non-AC, where is the ignition coil to be mounted? Does it get mounted to an intake manifold bolt on the drivers side? And what does the coil bracket look like? Mine is missing.
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: RoyceP on July 26, 2022, 10:26:07 AM
All of them from any plant were mounted to the intake bolt on the passenger side. This engine photo has a lot of problems but the coil location is typical.
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: RoyceP on July 26, 2022, 10:37:59 AM
There is a reproduction which is fairly accurate shape - wise but the originals were not painted, they were phosphate and oil finish. The part number is C4DZ-12043-A.
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 26, 2022, 02:41:09 PM
There is a reproduction which is fairly accurate shape - wise but the originals were not painted, they were phosphate and oil finish. The part number is C4DZ-12043-A.
+1 on finish . For clarification 65/66 were typically painted black . 67-70 were typically phosphate and oil . All of course excluding occasional anomalies.
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: 68 GT on July 26, 2022, 02:55:02 PM
Thank you for the information, picture and part number! I really appreciate it!👍
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: J_Speegle on July 26, 2022, 05:42:37 PM
All of them from any plant were mounted to the intake bolt on the passenger side. This engine photo has a lot of problems but the coil location is typical.

Picture you posted is of

Based on unrestore a 68. Appears that the poster was looking for 67 non-thermactor applications

Based on all the examples I have the original location would be a carry over from 66 and attached to the face of the passenger side head as shown in the earlier threads about the same subject. Used the words "67 Coil location" and it found them quickly

Will be merging this thread and one of those so I don't need to post a link  ;)
Title: Re: ignition coil location
Post by: RoyceP on July 26, 2022, 07:12:46 PM
Picture you posted is of

Based on unrestore a 68. Appears that the poster was looking for 67 non-thermactor applications

Based on all the examples I have the original location would be a carry over from 66 and attached to the face of the passenger side head as shown in the earlier threads about the same subject. Used the words "67 Coil location" and it found them quickly

Will be merging this thread and one of those so I don't need to post a link  ;)


True - I don't know why I chose to picture a '68 289. The '67 of course normally mounts on the cylinder head on the passenger side in non - thermactor applications. If the car was to be sold in Arizona or California when new it would mount like a '68 - on the passenger side of the intake due to the requirement for thermactor in those states..
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Ralf on August 10, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Late 66 on mine, none thermactor. SJ.
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 10, 2022, 04:56:40 PM
Late 66 on mine, none thermactor. SJ.
I know that you are concerned with assemblyline originality based on your past posts. With that in mind I thought I would mention that the ID sticker on your coil was most typically placed long ways along the body of the coil up and over the coil bracket and not along the coil bracket like you currently have it. Also the alternator is a later production rebuilt unit as indicated by the metal stamped engineering number (post March of 1969 ). 
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: J_Speegle on August 10, 2022, 11:55:20 PM
Late 66 on mine, none thermactor. SJ.

For others viewing the wire ends/boots at the coil are incorrect. Just in case others are looking and thinking of copying  as well as things Bob mentioned and the bypass hose clamp as well as clamp and hose finish
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Ralf on August 11, 2022, 01:23:11 PM
Thanks both for your hints.
I know that some things have to be done still.

Hose blue, wiring ignition coil black, 90* and so on...

However, I wanted to show the position of the coil.

The label position I gonna change quickly, this is the easiest part.

About the hose clamp you mentionrd, which type has to be used?

Regarding the alternator I was not aware of 69.
 How to identify that one? And what would be the correct alternator, e.g. Deadnuts is offering? Style, eng. Number?

Thanks a lot.

Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 11, 2022, 04:03:06 PM
Thanks both for your hints.
I know that some things have to be done still.

Hose blue, wiring ignition coil black, 90* and so on...

However, I wanted to show the position of the coil.

The label position I gonna change quickly, this is the easiest part.

About the hose clamp you mentionrd, which type has to be used?

Regarding the alternator I was not aware of 69.
 How to identify that one? And what would be the correct alternator, e.g. Deadnuts is offering? Style, eng. Number?

Thanks a lot.
Dead Nuts On has great examples that you can use to go by. After March of 1969 Ford alternators were metal stamped instead of ink stamped like the 67 versions . Yours is metal stamped so at least some later the 67 parts were used to rebuild the alternator.
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: J_Speegle on August 11, 2022, 06:12:21 PM
About the hose clamp you mentionrd, which type has to be used?

The reference was to the bypass hose clamp that you could just see. Originally those clamps were small tower clamps though just a little narrower band than the ones used on the heater hoses as shown below and shared with the 67 GT350 that year and the prior years

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-010316122853-52831773.jpeg)

Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 11, 2022, 10:36:41 PM
Both the assemblyline heater hose clamp and the bypass hose clamp are 1 1/16 but the heater hose is a wider band and is marked #10 on the inside and the bypass is a narrow band with a smaller thread size screw but the head is the same 3/8 size. The bypass is marked with a #2 in the inside of the band. If you can't tell the difference just remember the #2 on the inside.
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: Ralf on August 12, 2022, 12:51:43 PM
Made a search, but couldn't find the original Wittek Tower Clamps, just Wittek (bankruptcy 1993) repros, very close, but not like factory.
Anyone a better source?
Title: Re: '67 289 A code igntion coil location(Metuchen built)
Post by: J_Speegle on August 12, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
For the narrow ones at least I don't believe there is a source where you can just order them up and give them you credit card number. Not that easy.  Source will likely be an individual with a couple that came from a donor engine