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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Boss => Topic started by: mwizz on November 19, 2014, 07:42:42 AM

Title: 70 Boss 302 - Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 19, 2014, 07:42:42 AM
I've got a 70 Metuchen B2. I have noticed other Bosses have wingnuts to hold down the plate that sits under the shaker but mine has ordinary nuts securing it. Should they be wingnuts?
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: sah62 on November 19, 2014, 08:21:16 AM
Wing nuts were not used for factory assembly. That's a modification that makes it easier to remove the nuts by hand.
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 19, 2014, 04:25:26 PM
Thanks sah62
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: J_Speegle on November 19, 2014, 07:26:37 PM
Wing nuts were not used for factory assembly. .........

+1  A very popular modification by prior owners :)
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 19, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Thanks, I also note that the nut and bolt at the front of the shaker on my car is installed with the nut facing up which looks odd as you cab see the bottom of the bolt sticking up whereas I have seen on others that the philips head top of the bolt is facing up. I assume that the philips head bolt top should be facing up as that looks correct.
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: J_Speegle on November 20, 2014, 06:36:30 PM
Thanks, I also note that the nut and bolt at the front of the shaker on my car is installed with the nut facing up which looks odd as you cab see the bottom of the bolt sticking up whereas I have seen on others that the philips head top of the bolt is facing up. I assume that the philips head bolt top should be facing up as that looks correct.

No should have studs facing up at all attachment points (scoop to air cleaner base) is original. Can't recall ever seeing a phillps head there

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/2/6-201114163325.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 21, 2014, 06:36:16 AM
Thanks for that Jeff, that clarifies those but I think the one up in front of the shaker might be upside down. Pic below

(http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/mwizz/P1030193_zps4d262b98.jpg) (http://s810.photobucket.com/user/mwizz/media/P1030193_zps4d262b98.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: J_Speegle on November 21, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
Thanks for that Jeff, that clarifies those but I think the one up in front of the shaker might be upside down. Pic below

Yes that one is up side donw - thought you were still referring to the mid plate to air cleaner base attachment hardware
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 21, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
Thanks Jeff, it would have been easier if I put this photo up when I asked that question. Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 23, 2014, 08:32:26 AM
Just one more question Jeff, should the top of this small bolt be a particular color?
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: J_Speegle on November 23, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
Just one more question Jeff, should the top of this small bolt be a particular color?

Have to ask so that we're both on the same "bolt"

Are you referring to the bolt that holds the scoop to the mid plate or the "bolt"/stud from the air cleaner base to the mid plate ?  One that you originally asked about for the wing nut
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 24, 2014, 05:38:52 AM
Just the single bolt from the scoop to the mid plate (the one in my pic). I took that section off today and saw that it is just a threaded shaft with a nut at each end so I have to source the correct bolt from somewhere.
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: J_Speegle on November 24, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
Just the single bolt from the scoop to the mid plate (the one in my pic). I took that section off today and saw that it is just a threaded shaft with a nut at each end so I have to source the correct bolt from somewhere.


What you show, center forward in your picture, should be a phillips head bolt (as you mentioned earlier) facing down ward. Yellow highlighted area of the graphic below

 If I remember correctly it screws/bolts into a round plate that sort or "floats", allowing for adjustment and conforming to a couple of different applications, in the middle plate. Purple arrow is the location of that plate - most visible from below and only a small cut out in the upper surface of the mid plate.


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/2/6-241114152603.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: jwc66k on November 24, 2014, 07:04:30 PM
Bolt/screw 383119-S2 is a 1/4-20X1 1/2pan head, shown on AM0030 p25, 29 ,30 for 1969; AM0035 p23, 25, 26 28 for 1970. AMK carries it with the notation "similar". The original says "locking" in AMK Guide to Ford Fasteners, the replacement apparently has no locking feature.
Wing nuts for daily use, originals hardware for show.
Jim
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on November 25, 2014, 07:51:46 AM
Thanks Jeff and Jim, appreciate the advice
Mark
Title: Re: Wing nuts around shaker
Post by: mwizz on March 22, 2015, 06:25:52 AM
Got the hardware kit from Semo so all good now