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Offline ruppstang

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2019, 08:13:34 PM »
Our 67 GTA convertible SJ built 11-04-66 has the heavy duty battery option listed.

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2019, 12:07:46 AM »
My 12-17-66 built car has the heavy duty battery listed on the Marti report.  Car did not originally have AC.
John
1967 Fastback, A code, automatic transmission, Deluxe interior, AC, PS, P disc brakes, tilt, consoles, exterior group, fold down, DSO 71.
San Jose build, Actual build: Dec 17, 66.

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2019, 12:14:59 AM »
This is from a 67 electrical assembly manual there is no date on the page.
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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2019, 12:08:39 PM »
Thanks for the additional data points guys!

I do not think that there was a HD version of the 22F. From what I read in the 67 option list the HD battery up grade in a small block was the 24F.
Here is how it reads.
BATTERY - HEAVY DUTY - 55 Amp. (Standard on 390 V-8 with C-O-M) ............$7.44
I do not know what C-O-M stands for.

Both our 67 GTA C code and our 68 GT350 have the HD battery on their option lists. Both have a 24F and would have had 22Fs.

C-O-M = Cruise-O-Matic, Ford's marketing-speak for an automatic transmission.

So here's where things get interesting...
My car is a 390 Automatic, so it should have had the Heavy Duty Battery as standard equipment - yet there's no mention of it on the Marti Report VOI.

I wonder if this is another inconsistency with Ford's VOIs?  Like the way that some '67 Shelby's have specific call outs in the VOI for the "Shoulder Harness" or "Tachometer/Trip Odometer", but many others do not.  All '67 Shelby's were supposed to have these two options, but why do they only appear in the VOIs of some cars, and not all of them?
1967 390 GTA Convertible
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76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2019, 04:47:26 PM »
This is from a 67 electrical assembly manual there is no date on the page.

I have a similar page in my 67 Osborn electrical assembly manual that is dated 1-13-66 (still in the 66 model year production) and states it supersedes 11-3-65, EFFECTIVE WITH CZV1-RD-50500 ADDED C5AF-10655-B REQQMTS. TO (ITEM-1) & REVISED DRAWING

I'm not sure how much that helps, if at all but just adding it to the dialogue.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2019, 04:58:35 PM by 67gtasanjose »
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1967 (11/2/66, S.J.) GTA Luxury Coupe, 289-4V w/Thermactor Emissions, C-4, Int./Ext. Decor +many options

2005 (04/05) GT Premium Convertible, Windveil Blue, Parchment Top w/Med. Parchment interior,  Roush Body Appointments

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2019, 11:52:15 AM »
Regarding the "brace or bracket", the 68 MPC lists C7ZZ-10A691-A (upper) for 1967 & 1968.   It appears that many more cars were shipped out without the upper bracket than with, but the MPC does not mention that detail.  No need, I suppose.  If you lose it, you can go to the dealer and order it.  If you order a kit, and don't need it, it goes in the "maybe I can use this somewhere else later" drawer.
John
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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2020, 10:26:40 AM »
I found this battery in a 1967 Mercury Station wagon in a junkyard a few years ago. The front end had been damaged and the hood could not be opened. The junkyard has cars back to the 30's. I was able through persistance to get the hood open and remove the battery. The junkyard owner was surprised to see it.
There is a crack in one corner and the finish has suffered from over 50 years of sitting there. I posted this on the SAAC forum and folks there (many of whom are also on this site) think it is an assembly line battery.

My current questions relate to what sticker it might have had on it and if any of the lettering was colored. Information I have read here tells me the battery would not have had a date punch sticker.

The white fluid highlighting the markings is just Armorall right after being sprayed. It wiped off nicely, but shows the markings very well.

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2020, 04:40:33 PM »
I found this battery in a 1967 Mercury Station wagon in a junkyard a few years ago. The front end had been damaged and the hood could not be opened. The junkyard has cars back to the 30's. I was able through persistance to get the hood open and remove the battery. The junkyard owner was surprised to see it.
There is a crack in one corner and the finish has suffered from over 50 years of sitting there. I posted this on the SAAC forum and folks there (many of whom are also on this site) think it is an assembly line battery.

My current questions relate to what sticker it might have had on it and if any of the lettering was colored. Information I have read here tells me the battery would not have had a date punch sticker.

The white fluid highlighting the markings is just Armorall right after being sprayed. It wiped off nicely, but shows the markings very well.
Jim ,there is no sticker used on the picture battery. The Autolite and Staful were not painted typically. The warning info letters arrows etc.were highlighted in yellow paint.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2020, 04:57:11 PM »
Bob, Thanks very much. I saw that early photo on the SAAC forum showing the yellow paint. i dont see any traces of it now, but 53 years is a long time......

Best regards, Jim

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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2020, 06:15:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing.

For others you might consider something other than a silicon based dressing for your battery out of concern for its long and short term affect on the case. Just a concern - not offering this in a negative way towards Jim. Just have had a fair number of issues over the years with the product and similar ones but this thread is not the place to discuss further :)
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Re: 67 Battery Discussion -
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2020, 10:37:01 AM »
Jeff, Thanks for the heads up about Armorall and other silicone based products. I'll message you for advice.

Jim