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Offline bryancobb

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Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« on: March 13, 2011, 10:26:27 AM »
My MAR 66 convertible has never been restored and other than being painted twice and having a 1990's minor accident repaired by replacing the right fender and door with used parts, it is a survivor.

I am finishing up a "?concours?" engine rebuild and detail job.  I will not restore the chassis right now.  I will do that in a few years. 

I was cleaning the driveshaft tunnel and engine compartment and preparing to install the engine.  The OEM brown primer is in remarkably pristine condition. 

I can clearly see the break between engine black-out and primer brown.  HERE'S THE SURPRISE.  THE PRIMER BROWN AND THE BLACK BOTH HAVE RUNS AS I HAVE SEEN IN MANY PICTURES OF UNRESTORED CARS.  HOWEVER, ON MY CAR I CAN SEE WHERE THE RUNS IN THE BLACK AND PRIMER BROWN, JOINED TOGETHER WHILE RUNNING AND LEFT A STRIPED RUN.  THIS INDICATES TO ME, THAT THE BLACK WAS SPRAYED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PRIMER BROWN, WHILE THE PRIMER BROWN WAS STILL RUNNING AND DRIPPING.   

Is this consistent? Believable?

Here's a picture.  You can see what I am talking about but the picture is awful.
Please disregard the hole, punched by the ORIGINAL owner, to install aftermarket A/C.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 08:19:35 PM »
My MAR 66 convertible has never been restored and other than being painted twice and having a 1990's minor accident repaired by replacing the right fender and door with used parts, it is a survivor..............

I can clearly see the break between engine black-out and primer brown.  HERE'S THE SURPRISE.  THE PRIMER BROWN AND THE BLACK BOTH HAVE RUNS AS I HAVE SEEN IN MANY PICTURES OF UNRESTORED CARS.  HOWEVER, ON MY CAR I CAN SEE WHERE THE RUNS IN THE BLACK AND PRIMER BROWN, JOINED TOGETHER WHILE RUNNING AND LEFT A STRIPED RUN.  THIS INDICATES TO ME, THAT THE BLACK WAS SPRAYED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PRIMER BROWN, WHILE THE PRIMER BROWN WAS STILL RUNNING AND DRIPPING.   

Is this consistent? Believable?


Believe that there has to be some other reason for what your seeing considering that between the primer to the floor being applied and the black paint being applied you had two other applications of paint (the interior and exterior) being done.  Each of those applications required that they be fully dry  (you had taping and masking done between the interior and exterior applications) before moving on to the next stations.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 08:58:25 PM »
My car really is still in great shape.





66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Engine ready
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 09:12:54 PM »
Ready to sock-this-in in a couple of weeks.
I know... it's a little over done.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 09:01:15 PM »
If that is what you found then IMHO its hard to "over do it"  ;)

Looks nice
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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 10:07:04 PM »
Thanks Jeff,
Your compliment means a lot!
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2016, 09:55:35 PM »
Resurrection!!!

I just looked at some detailed pictures of a 67 Shelby that Maple hill Restoration (Brant from Virqinia Classic Mustanq) is restorinq riqht now.  Its firewall looks almost identical to my 66 convertible.  The red oxide was still wet when the black was sprayed.  The two colors mixed toqether as they both ran down.
 






« Last Edit: April 20, 2016, 10:00:05 PM by bryancobb »
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2016, 11:22:15 PM »
Thanks for posting ans sharing - the mix section is something I haven't seen on other cars. Wonder if its a greater possibility given where the plant was located and time of year.  Or even how the paint area was set up.

Because of the red oxide use early San Jose and early NJ can share so similarities

Notice that yours has the sealer wipe over the floor to firewall transition seam above the transmission location. Haven't seen enough 66 NJ examples to know if that is something you find on all or just ones that had a large misfit like at San Jose
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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2016, 07:36:20 AM »
that one with the wipe is their 67 Shelby.  my Niqhtmist blue  66 Metuchen car shown earlier in this thread did not have it.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2016, 07:50:05 PM »
that one with the wipe is their 67 Shelby.  my Niqhtmist blue  66 Metuchen car shown earlier in this thread did not have it.

Sorry missed their copywrite logo on the lower corner  ::) looking at it late last night.

First times I've seen the paint running together on a San Jose - Not typical IMHO
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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2016, 01:38:37 PM »
Bryan,

You did an amazing job restoring the transmission case and bell housing....care to share some of your secrets?

Mark
1967 S-code Fastback, GT, 3-speed manual, Metuchen, Scheduled 04-21-1967 - Actual 04-25-1967

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2016, 06:19:29 PM »
Brian, Those streaks of paint looked familiar to me. It took me a while to look through my unorganized photos but I did come up with a photo that shows similar streaks on my car. I bought it in 2012. I have no plans to restore it but I have cleaned it up, fixed a few errors that the two prior owners did since it just was a driver car and not anything special to them.  The scheduled build date was October 1965 at Metuchen, 289 2V automatic convertible very much like yours.
1966 289 C code auto convertible December 1965 scheduled build at Dearborn.

1966 289 C code auto convertible
October 1965 scheduled build at Metuchen.

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2016, 06:07:33 AM »
Bryan,

You did an amazing job restoring the transmission case and bell housing....care to share some of your secrets?

Mark

Thanks.  It was a little bit time consuminq but here`s my steps:
1)  Completely Disassemble
2)  Pressure wash multiple times with this
3)  Scrub multiple times with a stiff bristle brush and lacquer thinner
4)  Wash several times in the kitchen dishwasher with liquid Cascade
5)  Media blast very thorouqhly with walnut shells
6)  Spend hours and hours brushinq with a stainless steel bristle welder`s toothbrush until the finish I wanted was achieved
7)  Wipe with a raq usinq PPG Concept Satin Clear so that its pushed down into the surface profile of the aluminum but most is wiped off.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 06:11:16 AM by bryancobb »
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Engine ready
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2016, 08:15:04 PM »
Ready to sock-this-in in a couple of weeks.
I know... it's a little over done.


I just noticed how old that post was, but I wanted to also say that looks nice!

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Re: Metuchen 66 Paint Sequence
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2016, 08:43:18 PM »
Thanks for the kind words.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)