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Offline must69

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2018, 02:30:21 PM »
Jeff, sorry about the “Jim”. I never implied parts were being left off. 

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2018, 06:43:19 PM »

"66's had one built into the alternator. Not sure about a suppressor on the generator cars."

That would explain why all the '66 cars that I've ever owned never had one...but I thought they just eliminated it from the alternator... I had no idea that there was any surpression at all actually inside the 1966 Alternator.... This is new news to me.... Thanks...!

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2018, 09:35:21 PM »
"66's had one built into the alternator. Not sure about a suppressor on the generator cars."

That would explain why all the '66 cars that I've ever owned never had one...but I thought they just eliminated it from the alternator... I had no idea that there was any surpression at all actually inside the 1966 Alternator.... This is new news to me.... Thanks...!

:o)

Tony K.
Not really. Even though from 66 on the alternator had a built in suppressor it still had one installed at the regulator also. A 65 radio car had one on the alternator AND the regulator.
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2018, 10:19:05 PM »

"Even though from 66 on the alternator had a built in suppressor it still had one installed at the regulator also. "

Yeah Bob, Knew that already.  We were just primarily talking about the Alternator in the discussion.. 

We weren't even dealing with the one at the VR...

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2018, 02:27:58 AM »
"Even though from 66 on the alternator had a built in suppressor it still had one installed at the regulator also. "

Yeah Bob, Knew that already.  We were just primarily talking about the Alternator in the discussion.. 

We weren't even dealing with the one at the VR
...

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Tony K.
Well I suppose you just didn't read all of the posts otherwise you wouldn't have written that mis informed statement "We weren't even dealing with the one at the VR" . "We" talked about both. JWC66K in reply #8,MGMRADIO reply#12, OURLAWINCORPORATED reply #20 ,MUST69 Reply#26,and J-SPEEGLE reply#27 .
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2018, 07:01:00 PM »

No, You're absolutely right... I didn't read the entire thread.  I just responded to that particular question on that particular page..

Tisk, Tisk on me...

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2018, 07:20:22 PM »
No, You're absolutely right... I didn't read the entire thread.  I just responded to that particular question on that particular page..

Tisk, Tisk on me...

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No worries ,"we" understand. ;)
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2018, 11:36:03 PM »
If one had looked at my Reply #7, you'd see that in the '62 Shop Manual (as well as back to the early 50's), the use of suppressors (condensers) on both the Generator and VR was a common part of Ford's "Suppression Package". I don't know why the 1965 Generators, etc. would be any different.

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2018, 01:08:10 PM »
images of the 2 NOS suppressors I have in my NOS 64 1.2 radio kit

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2018, 01:12:53 PM »
Perfect. Thanks!
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2020, 10:46:05 PM »
Hi guys,
Is this installed the correct way round or should the wire be at the bottom of the suppressor?
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2020, 06:03:06 PM »
Hi guys,
Is this installed the correct way round or should the wire be at the bottom of the suppressor?

Suppressor is installed in your picture in the correct direction - pig tail to the engine side and step in the bracket forward over the alternator case as shown in a number of 65 San Jose (since I'm guessing that is the application your asking about) in the unrestored picture section on the site. At least in one picture the pigtail and the wire it connects to is orientated and passes under the the main alternator wire loom

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2020, 04:42:38 PM »
Thanks Jeff
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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2023, 01:34:37 PM »
Hi everyone,
I don't have the condenser on the generator.
Is it compulsory, and what are the specifications ?
In the meantime, all the best
Didier

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Re: Radio Suppression - With Generator
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2023, 03:52:23 PM »
Hi everyone,
I don't have the condenser on the generator.
Is it compulsory, and what are the specifications ?
In the meantime, all the best
Didier
Yes. It is required if you want static-free radio reception. Generators were very "noisy".
The first thing to determine is the Ford part number. It is C3AA-18827-A -
In the 64 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual (AM003 pg71) there is a condenser (C3AA-18827-A) shown with the lead attached to an existing stud and retained by an existing screw (they call it a bolt) and washer; and a second (C3AA-18832-A) attached to a voltage regulator terminal and retained by a regulator mounting screw.
I looked at the 60-68 and 75 editions of Ford Car Parts and what is show can be confusing.
But, I found this link:
https://classicradiospeakers.com/c3aa-18827-a
I don't know if they still have inventory, or what their shipping policy is to your location.
Jim
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