Topic: Original Toploader photos

[Anghelrestorations]

Im working on an article now on detailing a Toploader - focusing on the 70-73 versions with the Hurst shifters and linkage.  May expand this into other years as time permits.
If anyone has photos of the original paint and inspection markings or details let me know...especially unrestored cars.  I have several photos but may want to add some more.......

[J_Speegle]

At the moment I don't know how many for the 70-73 variety I have but in total have somewhere around 1,000-2,000 examples of manual transmission markings. As you know have been making and providing the stamps for many of the top loaders that I've provided to the Boss and 428 CJ Registries for their forum members. Don't have allot of 71-3 examples for some reasons must just be due to the limited number of those cars owned and restored compared to others.

Think communicating the somewhat randomness of some of the bottom and passenger side markings will be a challenge and have not see allot of marks or variations of markings on the Hurst shifters.

Was looking into (on the list) of doing something similar except not specifically on the years you mentioned as I work to add to the other paint marking articles already published.  Lets see what I may be able to help out with 

[K-HESS]

I have an NOS service part Toploader wrapped up in plastic on the shelf for a 428CJ RUG-AE2. It was stored unboxed in a garage for 25 years before I got it. It has some rust staining as should be expected from the northeast weather here but it has never been used. I did replace the front bearing retainer because the previous owner took the one off of this transmission for his Torino when he was in a pinch. I did acquire an NOS one after years of searching but it is a service part which is painted. Willing to take the plastic off and take some pictures if you need. Again it is a service part with no drain plug so it was most likely assembled in 1970 or later.

[Anghelrestorations]

K-Hess - Yes, would be good to see what you have as I have some theories as to the markings you will see.  We dont get to see an NOS piece like that every day....that sort of information would interest alot of people Im sure.  Let us know what you can do. 

[K-HESS]

I took advantage of the great weather were having here in the northeast and I got the transmission out in the sunlight for the first time in nearly 20 years.

[K-HESS]

More pics

[K-HESS]

I gave it a good soaking with WD40 and took some more shots

[K-HESS]

Also got a couple of paint marks on the inside too

[J_Speegle]

Thanks - look pretty close to many others I've got pictures of. Other NOS examples are all in crates so impossible to see details on those.

Any indication on the crate when the item was boxed or shipped?

[K-HESS]

No information on what year it was originally purchased. I purchased it from the original buyer in the 90's.

[Anghelrestorations]

Great set of photos here.  That is pretty much what I expected.  As much as there is variations in the markings from one to the next there is also some things that are generally the same.  The ink stamping of the case (GAE) and the numbered inspection stamp by the levers.  The graffiti on the bottom of the case varies quite a bit from the examples I have. 

Thanks for posting the photos. 

[Brian Conway]

Are you going to attempt to make sense of the RUG AE2 019507 sequence number ?  Brian

[J_Speegle]

Are you going to attempt to make sense of the RUG AE2 019507 sequence number ?  Brian

That is just the "serial" or identification number. Everything I've seen and read suggest there is no coding going on there. Start at a low number - and work up from there 

[Anghelrestorations]

Yep...I agree with Jeff here.  Just like the VIN numbers the transmissions numbers are the same.  The first few letters/number are good for identification but the rest are just a sequence. 

[Mike_B_SVT]

428SCJ / 4-speed.  Build date: Oct 6th, 1969
Transmission;
   - Rivet Tag:   RUG AZ 010632
   - Case Date:   F3-9 (June 3rd, 1969)
   - Case PN:    C8AR 7006-D W 2
   - Tail Date:   F3-9 (June 3rd, 1969)
   - Tail PN:   D0ZR-7A040-A W 2
   - VIN stamp is present on top lip at bellhousing mount
Paint marks include:   "G14" written on pass side (possibly July 14 assembly date?), "Hxx" in pink on bottom (possibly Aug xx assembly date?), "10" written on pass side, "GAZ" written on top cover, "2" stamp on drv side, "GAZ" stamp on bottom.

Here is my transmission pics album on Imgur.  Let me know if you have problems viewing it.

https://imgur.com/a/Btadx/all/


Here are a few sample images;