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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: Madisoneyes on April 16, 2015, 09:16:22 PM
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I have a C code single exhaust car in which I am trying to mount rear seatbelts. The rear flex brake line mount seems to be where the seatbelt mount needs to go. Does anyone have a photo example of how this is correctly done?
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In the Rotunda seatbelt kits was a diagram of where to install the belts. Since these would have been only dealer-installed in '65, it's hard to say if there was a "correct" way since there would obviously be no quality control or the like.
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Do a search there are lots of posts and pictures on the topic. Also check other forums. I found some pictures of installs and did mine last summer, pretty easy process, and I did not have any interference...
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I've attached a picture of my '65 during it's restoration. I've circled the mounting plates in green. I added rear seat belts as well using the factory style mounting plates. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ron
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In the picture posted above the anchor plates appear to have different features that factory ones you would see in 65 IMHO
Agree with Charles - there is no one "correct way" and using factory like anchors would likely not be seen as "correct" IMHO.
Should likely look like someone did the job at home in their garage ;)
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I've attached a picture of my '65 during it's restoration. I've circled the mounting plates in green. I added rear seat belts as well using the factory style mounting plates. Hope this helps.
Ron, while I applaud your efforts to install the anchors and have them appear "correct", I have to say that if I saw them on a '65 concours car I was judging at a national show, I would deduct points.
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I have to say that if I saw them on a '65 concours car I was judging at a national show, I would deduct points.
I did, and the owner was upset. The head judge stepped in and the owner was still upset, ultimately left the field.
(Why is it always the big guys that judge the undercarriage, I'm 6' 1', 240lbs.)
Jim
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I did, and the owner was upset. The head judge stepped in and the owner was still upset, ultimately left the field.
(Why is it always the big guys that judge the undercarriage, I'm 6' 1', 240lbs.)
Jim
curious, not that it matters to me. But WHy would it be deducted? because they were not available? Or because he installed them wrong?
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because he installed them 'like factory' and since they were not available from the factory they should not look factory installed.
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Ron, while I applaud your efforts to install the anchors and have them appear "correct", I have to say that if I saw them on a '65 concours car I was judging at a national show, I would deduct points.
Charles fair comment for my particular car which didn't come with factory installed rear seat belts. However that's one area I wasn't trying to be concours correct but rather have them installed properly per the factory spec to actually function as safely as possible. Passenger safety trumped concours on that decision. :) Anchor bolts and a huge flat washer weren't going cut it.
Having said that, rear seat belts were a factory option in '65 (albeit a rare option). So I would respectfully disagree with a blanket statement that any concours '65 should have a points deducted for this type of installation. I would agree that such rear seat belt installation would be suspect without documentation. However, there are cars that could have a factory style rear seat belt installation since they were indeed installed at the factory.
Regards,
Ron
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Ron, rear seat belts were only a dealer option for '65 production year.
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Ron, rear seat belts were only a dealer option for '65 production year.
You are completely correct my mistake - I got that mixed up with rear back-up lights. :-[
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Could someone have technically ordered it at the dealer with rear seat belts, if it was a special order car? Would the rear seat belts still be installed at the dealer or would the factory have done it?
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Dealer only for 1965 rear belts on Mustangs. I think 1964 was dealer for front and rear. They used an eye bolt thru the floor to attach the ends. I had front belts in my 64 Fairlane Sports Coupe but I'm not sure if they were factory or dealer. My 60 Galaxy was dealer installed.
Jim
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Could someone have technically ordered it at the dealer with rear seat belts, if it was a special order car? Would the rear seat belts still be installed at the dealer or would the factory have done it?
Don't believe that rear seat belts would have produced a required special order - as you mentioned it would have just been left up to the dealer and they would have pocketed the extra dollars charged. Similar to owners wanting dual exhaust - dealer would have just taken care of that (and run the car down to Midas or Sears - had a system slapped on) and pocketed the extra charges
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I was thinking if they had ordered a special color that wasn't used on Mustangs and ordered all options available...