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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: 1967 eight barrel on November 21, 2018, 05:45:57 AM
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Could anyone help out with pictures of the side latch area without the chrome trim on and a picture of the chrome trim for the front of the fold down seat on a 1967 vehicle?
I looked at Coral's site, but the pictures are of such poor resolution that I can't see what I am looking at. I found the issue with my fold down, I just need to look at why.
It's with the front piece at the latch area. It's wider than the rear portion. I am starting to wonder if I some how have mixed seat components or the trim from the repo 1967 trim is incorrect.
Keith
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I shot Coral Snake a PM as well. I don't know if the trim I have is right. I have had an issue with clearance and can't fold the seat down. I noted when I was working on alignment that the front part of the fold down is wider at the hinge that the other side at the hinge by about a 1/4" . I am suspect that the trim supplied as '67 with the kit is wrong, the front part of the foldown is an earlier or later. The trim they sent me that wasn't supplied in the kit for '67 is inset at the strikers, the fold down isn't.
-Keith
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I wish I could remember the fold down web site that pictured all the different types 65-70. I will try and look . Hopefully someone will have better memory then I and post it in the mean time.
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Here are the pictures of what I have. There are no recesses in the fold down sides for the striker recesses stamped in the trim. It makes the curved forward section wider than the part on the plate where the hinge attaches by about 1/4". The issue that has plauged me all along. Here are the pictures from my seat. Do they look correct for 1967?
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I wish I could remember the fold down web site that pictured all the different types 65-70. I will try and look . Hopefully someone will have better memory then I and post it in the mean time.
That WEB site might be gone if I remember correctly. I looked over an NPD and found there are two types, each with differences for the years.
https://www.npdlink.com/product/molding-set-fold-down-seat-13-note-front/100104/279
https://www.npdlink.com/product/molding-set-fold-down-seat-13-note-front/143738/279
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Here are the pictures of what I have. There is no recesses in the fold down sides for the striker recesses stamped in the trum. It makes the curved forward section wider than the part on the plate where the hinge attatches by about 1/4". The issue that has plauged me all along. Here are the pictures from my seat. Do they look correct for 1967?
Both the items I just posted state "Latch area on trim is recessed and not flat".
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I wish I could remember the fold down web site that pictured all the different types 65-70. I will try and look . Hopefully someone will have better memory then I and post it in the mean time.
http://www.thecoralsnake.com/67ID.htm
Bob, this is it. The pictures are of such poor quality I can't see the details. Great site. Pictures archived are poor.
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Try this link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090212175758/http://folddownseat.com:80/index.htm
It's an archived site.
I helped a friend restore a 67 San Jose "A" code Fastback about 15 years ago and included a conversion from fixed real seat to fold down. We had no problems.
Jim
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Try this link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090212175758/http://folddownseat.com:80/index.htm
It's an archived site.
Thanks Jim that site, for me, is allot clearer once you enlarge the thumbnails though I have to scroll "through the picture" in a partial view
Was a great site that took allot of effort. Believe we've learned a few things since then and there are a couple of typos but what site would not after all these years.
Took a look at the pictures I have and non focus just on the latch striker area of the fold down but the ones that do provide some details on San Jose 67 all had the reinforcing plate and no recess (matches Sam's site) except for a few "restored"cars ::)
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Here's my 3/67 folddown, which I believe is original.
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Here's my 3/67 folddown, which I believe is original.
Looks like it :)
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According to the Fold Down site the 67 trim piece surrounding the latch is not reproduced + must use rechromed original. Did you save your originals?
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It is reproduced now. However, the kits are supplied with the 65-6 and you have call them and have them ship it to you. And no, the trim was very rough and I didn't have the forethought years ago when it was taken off to keep it. It was pitted.
-Keith
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Try this link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090212175758/http://folddownseat.com:80/index.htm
It's an archived site.
I helped a friend restore a 67 San Jose "A" code Fastback about 15 years ago and included a conversion from fixed real seat to fold down. We had no problems.
Jim
Jim, that is what I need. I have 69-70 trim supplied. Makes sense now. Or I could notch metal for clearance.
-Keith
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Here's my 3/67 folddown, which I believe is original.
Thank you, Bill. Answers my question. Now I am going to have to locate the correct trim. I believe they are reproducing it now for the 67. I have trim for late 68-70.
-Keith
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Thank you, Bill. Answers my question. Now I am going to have to locate the correct trim. I believe they are reproducing it now for the 67. I have trim for late 68-70.
-Keith
We have always had to save and reuse that one piece . If someone is reproducing it then that is a good thing however I am not aware of them . Maybe someone can confirm if and where for sure.
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Bob, I put a call in to the two manufacturers that make these kits. I will let you know once I am sure. I threw mine out years ago. If I can't find replacements I can make the inset ones work with a slight modification that can be corrected when I find a set.
-Keith
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- a 67 San Jose "A" code Fastback about 15 years ago -
We had no problems.
Let me revise that. Per the car's owner (in a phone call last night), we used a edge molding kit for almost everything except the two curved striker pieces, which were re-chromed at a local chrome shop. The two kit pieces were "inferior". The 13 piece kit cost about $250, the plating was about $150 for the two sections. That was the least expensive approach. Again, that was 15 years ago.
Jim
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Let me revise that. Per the car's owner (in a phone call last night), we used a edge molding kit for almost everything except the two curved striker pieces, which were re-chromed at a local chrome shop. The two kit pieces were "inferior". The 13 piece kit cost about $250, the plating was about $150 for the two sections. That was the least expensive approach. Again, that was 15 years ago.
Jim
Jim, you live in Commiefornia. Because of the moronic EPA there most Chrome goes to Tijuana to be done, then trucked back in to the U.S. That's why you pay that kind of money.
I am gathering that what is supplied by the two manufacturers has to be modified for use. So I will have to hunt down OE trim and plate it, or use what I have and do a slight modification to use it. I posted months ago about the fold down issue. When I was adjusting it I noted the front piece trim was about .250 wider at the hinge. The light came on and I knew there was a trim issue. Thank you for the website and clear pictures provided. I contacted Coral, but he wasn't enchanted about answering question. If I feel like I am bothering someone I disengage immediately.
I thank all for responses. I now know what went wrong. I will never do a restoration like this over the length of time this one has taken either.
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Jim, you live in Commiefornia. Because of the moronic EPA there most Chrome goes to Tijuana to be done, then trucked back in to the U.S. That's why you pay that kind of money.
As usual, you "foreigners" get it wrong, in this case partially. In Northern California (about 500 miles from TJ), some the local chrome plating shops are still in business. My go-to shop did close early this year. The owner was not bashful about telling everyone his monthly EPA (that's federal) hazardous materials expenses, between 6 and 8 thousand dollars, which made plating expensive. All his work was done in-house. Another shop, located about two miles from me, preps the pieces to be done here, but sends them to the Central Valley, Modesto specifically, to be plated. The two pieces I referred to were done by that shop. Again, that was 15 years ago. That shop will stay in business simply because they plate items for the giants the High Tech industry, Intel, Cisco, AMD to name a few. The state harasses platers a lot, their customers (see above) harass the state. In Southern California, they do send just about everything to TJ. Remember, when in Mexico, don't drink the water.
Jim
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... Remember, when in Mexico, don't drink the water.
Jim
Jose Cuervo, he no friend o' mine!
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As usual, you "foreigners" get it wrong, in this case partially. In Northern California (about 500 miles from TJ), some the local chrome plating shops are still in business. My go-to shop did close early this year. The owner was not bashful about telling everyone his monthly EPA (that's federal) hazardous materials expenses, between 6 and 8 thousand dollars, which made plating expensive. All his work was done in-house. Another shop, located about two miles from me, preps the pieces to be done here, but sends them to the Central Valley, Modesto specifically, to be plated. The two pieces I referred to were done by that shop. Again, that was 15 years ago. That shop will stay in business simply because they plate items for the giants the High Tech industry, Intel, Cisco, AMD to name a few. The state harasses platers a lot, their customers (see above) harass the state. In Southern California, they do send just about everything to TJ. Remember, when in Mexico, don't drink the water.
Jim
Jim, Nothing that involves chemicals or manufacturing goes unfettered by the CA state EPA. You're right. They are so far up their posterior that one drop of something unaccounted for garners a multi-million dollar investigation and unending attempts to prosecute. Of course while the state runs in the red and doesn't pay my medical expenses it has endless amounts of tax dollars for invaders who aren't coming here to make America a better place, but to exploit the system. Even in California, at some point you'll run out of other people's money too!
I have a good plater here in the Ft Worth area if you need anything done.
-Keith
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As usual, you "foreigners" get it wrong, in this case partially. In Northern California (about 500 miles from TJ), some the local chrome plating shops are still in business. My go-to shop did close early this year. The owner was not bashful about telling everyone his monthly EPA (that's federal) hazardous materials expenses, between 6 and 8 thousand dollars, which made plating expensive. All his work was done in-house. Another shop, located about two miles from me, preps the pieces to be done here, but sends them to the Central Valley, Modesto specifically, to be plated. The two pieces I referred to were done by that shop. Again, that was 15 years ago. That shop will stay in business simply because they plate items for the giants the High Tech industry, Intel, Cisco, AMD to name a few. The state harasses platers a lot, their customers (see above) harass the state. In Southern California, they do send just about everything to TJ. Remember, when in Mexico, don't drink the water.
Jim
Jim, I am a native with 36 years of crazy Commiefornia under my belt, not to mention the way the state treats it's LE once they force retirement on you. It is foreign to me now. I moved to Texas where we speak English. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks again for posting the site. The pictures were worth a 1000 words. ( Well, close)
-Keith
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Let me revise that. Per the car's owner (in a phone call last night), we used a edge molding kit for almost everything except the two curved striker pieces, which were re-chromed at a local chrome shop. The two kit pieces were "inferior". The 13 piece kit cost about $250, the plating was about $150 for the two sections. That was the least expensive approach. Again, that was 15 years ago.
Jim
Jim is on the money, if you use one of the after market Moulding kits, you will have to use and re-chrome the original corner moulding's.. The ones in the kit dont fit. I also re did my original latches..
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Well, sort of true. They can be modified. I also had the latches replated. However, those are available now new. The molding has to be modified.