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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Drivetrain => Topic started by: automotive_hoarder on November 14, 2019, 01:04:17 PM
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Hello, my first post on this forum as I have just started to have my 67 S-code fastback restored.
I am sure this has already been discussed but can anyone advise the correct finish for the linkage on a Hurst shifter, particularly the rods? ( If that is their correct name?!)
Thanks in advance!
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welcome to the board......now according to our factory build focus here are you 100% sure that a hurst shifter is factory correct for your car??
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Hi Welcome.
Prior to 1970, Ford did not offer Hurst shift linkages. Someone will come along and give the definitive answer for Ford rods.
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Ford rods are phosphate and oil the square levers on the end are also if you search P&O all of the are the details are covered.
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First welcome to the site. Hope you find the support and information related to factory original restorations here on the site for your project(s)
Hello, my first post on this forum as I have just started to have my 67 S-code fastback restored.
I am sure this has already been discussed but can anyone advise the correct finish for the linkage on a Hurst shifter, particularly the rods? ( If that is their correct name?!)
No we really have not discussed the "correct" finish of Hurst linkage and rods for your application. As mentioned its not factory so it would not fit the focus here.
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It is my understanding that the Hurst shifters factory installed on Mustangs use the Ford arms to the transmission, a Ford housing and that was mated up to a Hurst arm. It was mostly for show.
Jim
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It is my understanding that the Hurst shifters factory installed on Mustangs use the Ford arms to the transmission, a Ford housing and that was mated up to a Hurst arm. It was mostly for show.
Jim
Not on the ones I have pictures of or have owned. Shifter is Hurst and I don't know any easy way to attach a Hurst arm to a Ford box.
In 70 the rods as well as the lock out do carry ford numbers on the arms
Hurst upper and Ford lower - Notice how different the handle attachment configuration/pad is
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-151119183518.jpeg)
Believe we've responded to the original question and are now getting a bit off thread and onto other years.
Related threads about 70 and up four speed shifters
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8454.0 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8454.0)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=19966.msg126335#msg126335 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=19966.msg126335#msg126335)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8454.msg49016#msg49016 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8454.msg49016#msg49016)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=9707.msg57249#msg57249 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=9707.msg57249#msg57249)
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What I described as to the Hurst upper shifter arm and Ford lower housing setup was what was said to have been used back in the '70. Nobody checked out that type of detail on a new car back then. I installed a Hurst Competition Plus shifters on my 69 Sportsroof (351W 4v, top loader) about a month after I picked it up from the dealer. I also installed Hurst Shifters on my 64 Fairlane Sports Coupe 289HP 4sp, and a 66 Fastback A code 4sp, both of which I bought new. I've installed 5 new and used Hurst shifters on 65 and 66 Mustangs I bought in the early 90's as "projects" cars. One went back to the Ford linkage when I sold it.
Jim
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What I described as to the Hurst upper shifter arm and Ford lower housing setup was what was said to have been used back in the '70...............
Just to clarify my post. The upper two pictures are a 70 Mustang Hurst shifter the lower two are the 69 (specifically) and similar to earlier Ford version, shifter.
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Hi Jim, Just for some clarification ….. The Hurst shifter supplied on all 70-73 4 speed cars used a shifter body and handle supplied by Hurst, and rods and tabs supplied by Ford. That said, the shifter itself was a Competition Plus that was modified to meet Ford engineering requirements. They have larger holes in the levers for the press in shifter bushings, a slide in handle isolated in rubber for vibration, a tab for a reverse light switch, and no stop bolts. The shift lever is also a custom ford design (shorter than the aftermarket mustang lever) All the mods were made for either vibration isolation or manufacturing cost savings. (the reverse light switch adjusted itself the first time you put it in reverse, and eliminating the stop bolts meant they didn't have to adjust them. The Ford designed rods were also alot faster to adjust than the aftermarket Hurst stuff.
All that said, even the Factory Hurst shifter is WAYYY better that the Ford manufactured one, especially the 69 version, and if you really want, you can drill and tap to add the stop bolts ….