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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: 69mustanggt on March 18, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
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Looking through the Osborn manual and searches here and across the Internet I can't seem to find a definite answer to where the stripes on a GT are supposed to be located. I have seen tons of pics but the angle of them doesn't help in determining the correct placement of the strips. Anyone know of a source or know the actual measurements for the stripes on the front fender, door, and rear quarter. From what I can tell the stripes should be on each side of the rear tire, across the door, and then the back half of the front fender behind the front wheel.
Hints/suggestions appreciated.
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The stripe is exactly 1/4 of an inch from the bottom of the door. You install the stripe on the door first, after you know you will not do anymore adjustments to the doors. Once the door stripe is straight along the bottom of the door, with the door in the closed position. Do the quarter panel and fender. The door is pretty much straight forward as far as alignment. You might want to take some 3/4" tape and make a line to go by on the quarter and fender to help get it straight. Also the stripe ends a quarter of an inch from the wheel openings, in 69 it did not wrap around the lip. Notice in the picture of Jacks car, you can see the stripe just ending from the edge of the fender. This was an NOS kit I installed. I hope that helps!
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k297/Armond61/PassengerMainVeiwV69_zpsb093bc49.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k297/Armond61/PassengerMainVeiwV1_zps041a558d.jpg)
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So does the stripe continue on the rear quarter behind the wheel? I notice in the pic of the convertible that the stripes don't. Was there a difference in the strips on a sportsroof vs. coupe vs. convertible? The "Factory Spec" kit I got has 4 pieces for each side.
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No it does not extend into the rear quarter past the wheel. It is exactly as shown. I have not seen a repo 69 mustang kit, but it sounds like 68/69 Torino GT coupe/convert kit that does extend past the wheel. I am not saying it is a torino kit, but maybe they thought the mustang kit should be like the Torino GT kit.
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Well that is a bummer. The kit was from Graphic Express and they are supposed to be Ford licensed. The kit said "As supplied by Factory" and it contained 8 pieces. I guess I could have gotten by with getting the non-premium kit -- would have saved me about $20. But at the end of the day $20 is a drop in the bucket compared to other expenses on the car. I guess I should have checked here instead of using the Internet as my guide. I found several pics like the one below which led me to think I needed 4 pieces per side to be "right".
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I have had a couple of GT's along with the one I still have and I have never seen one like the picture you have. If you want, take the measurements of the stripe and I can compare it to my NOS kit I have. Take a look at this kit on Ebay. If you look close at the pictures. You will see on the four shorter decals. They have a slight upward bend in them. This is correct. These are the reflective ones, but they have non reflective. The slight bend in the decal is so that when it is applied, the bend goes up onto the wheel opening and it will lay on straight, making it easier to line up and apply. Sounds nuts, but it works.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-MUSTANG-GT-REFLECTIVE-SIDE-STRIPE-KIT-FORD-LICENSED-/321084054615?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac219dc57&vxp=mtr
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My kit came from E-bay as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300602568454?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I checked and it does have the slight curve in it - I hadn't even noticed until you mentioned it. I am so puzzled - I guess my body guy would prefer to do three stripes instead of four. I will probably have him do the 3 stripes on one side and 4 on the other. If I like 4 I will go with 4 (and take the hit). I wish there was a true depiction in a guide (from Ford) that showed the stripes. It is such a pain to have multiple "factory right" kits. I guess I will learn to live with the mystery.
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FWIW, the '69 Mustang sales brochure has a section on the GT Equipment Group in the back and the car depicted does not have stripes behind the rear wheels.
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Rock -- thanks for the info. I have looked through the .pdf of that thing several times and never noticed it. Now I feel like sending a 'nasty-gram' to the seller of the stripes and share with them my thoughts on their "as Factory supplied" listing. I guess 3 strips per side it is and I will hang on to the 4th stripe so I have a constant reminder of the error of my ways. Should have asked here before I bought them. I guess the old saying "Caveat emptor" still holds true even in the digital age.
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Bring back an old topic. I was taking a certain test and saw where a question was about the tri colored stripe on 69 GT and based on what I thought, it was white, black and gold. However, that was not an option for answers so I had to go with just white and black. I was really thinking that gold was available on these cars as well?? like the pic above. was the gold stripe an option or not. Because mine had a gold stripe and I just took for granted that it was correct but now I don't know.. the car was repainted in the late 70's so its possible it was replaced. I don't have the build sheet so Im not sure. ?? What do you guys see out there?
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Bring back an old topic. I was taking a certain test and saw where a question was about the tri colored stripe on 69 GT and based on what I thought, it was white, black and gold. However, that was not an option for answers so I had to go with just white and black. I was really thinking that gold was available on these cars as well?? like the pic above. was the gold stripe an option or not. Because mine had a gold stripe and I just took for granted that it was correct but now I don't know.. the car was repainted in the late 70's so its possible it was replaced. I don't have the build sheet so Im not sure. ?? What do you guys see out there?
Maybe you're thinking of Mach I stripes?
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no. I'm speaking of the 69 GT stripes. was white and Black all that was available. I remember an old mustang monthly article titled "like father, Like son" which had a black jade 69 gt with gold stripes as well as a few other 69 gt's l ve seen that where suppose to be concourse with blk jade and gold. I never gave it anymore thought because my 69 gt black jade had a gold stripe when I purchased it back in 03 and it had been in a barn since 1981. Now Im questioning it.??
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found a pic
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Cant say its correct or not, but my very first car, my 69 GT had a chrome strip running under the GT stripe. Photo from 1979.
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Cant say its correct or not, but my very first car, my 69 GT had a chrome strip running under the GT stripe. Photo from 1979.
Looks like it might be a Mach I with a repaint and GT stripe
found a pic
Is that a restored car? Looks like it might be
NOTE _ removed my earlier posted picture since the stripe was not original
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Looks like it might be a Mach I with a repaint and GT stripe
Was a real GT, 4bbl 351W with 4 speed top loader. Drums all around, no PS no AC open 9" non Deluxe interior. GT Pop open gas cap. But boy was it fun to drive. :-)
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well mine is in the paint shop and I have a reproduction gold stripe to go on it. If I can't figure it out then I will put it on since that's what was on it when she came to me. nothing on the MR except GT equipped. no build sheet. I don't really have a choice but to think it is correct?
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See pages 20-21 for color combinations and tape stripe styles.
Update: Added link to document on Ford's media site:
https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/2013/11/18/1969_Mustang_Data.pdf (https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/2013/11/18/1969_Mustang_Data.pdf)
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That is a world of information. Thanks so much.. that definitely makes me rest better.. I can't wait to print that out and study it. Every time I think I've read it all, Someone shows me a whole other world. Gold it is! Now, I wonder if I read the test question right? If I remember right it ask what colors where available for the tri-stripe was on a 1969 with GT equipped option.? and black and white was what they where looking for. Am I miss interpreting "Tri -stripe"?
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Note that there is no publication date (that I could find) on that document. My guess it that it was printed before the start of the model year. It's possible that some of the colors/combos or other details may have changed or been dropped during production.
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Does the preproduction list of suggested colors of stripes to exterior colors (think we all know that these were not required ;) show by the asterisk that the Gold was only available with the Grande package
Do have a Black exterior with Gold interior GT fastback with white stripes in my pictures. Stripe was replaced at some point but think the owner likely replaced what they found originally (car has made the auction rounds currently or in the past couple of years). IMHO if gold had been original they would have jumped at the opportunity.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-131115200437.jpeg)
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Does the preproduction list of suggested colors of stripes to exterior colors (think we all know that these were not required ;) show by the asterisk that the Gold was only available with the Grande package
Do have a Black exterior with Gold interior GT fastback with white stripes in my pictures. Stripe was replaced at some point but think the owner likely replaced what they found originally (car has made the auction rounds currently or in the past couple of years). IMHO if gold had been original they would have jumped at the opportunity.
The asterisk note indicates stripes charted as "black" or "gold" were not single-color on Grande (either black+gold or gold+white). I don't read it as "only available on Grande". In the Grande section of the document it describes "special two-toned narrow paint stripe below fender line".
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Guess we need to find a salesman's handbook from a couple of quarters or a few of the
order forms to see if gold was available on GT's
Maybe even (not sure how accurate they really are) an Arm Chair estimator to see what it lists
Did find a copy of an early (June 68 so still preproduction :( order for but even though it has an area for "Accent Stripes" there are no colors or codes listed as there are for interior, tops and exterior colors and many other options
Interestingly there are many things listed on the sheets that are lined through and a note from (just guess) the dealer or salesman indicating that option was not available. On this sheet there are 6 different things lined through - include some exterior color choices and three "new" exterior colors added.
Looking at earlier years and 70's also I see no place to indicate a choice of tape stripe color other than the "accent stripe" color listed on the 69 version. Guess they would need to write a request and possibly even use the DSO system to get a particular color.
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Jeff, thanks for digging deeper. I did talk to the person I bought the car from (2nd) owner and he said he bought the car in 72 or 73 with the original everything and it had gold stripe then. He repainted in the 80s and ordered another gold stripe from local dealer to put back on. Of coarse there is still no actual proof. Im researching it as well. Sounds like it is what it is.. I m just wanting concrete proof before I stick it on again.. best wishes
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The Ford Part number for 69 Gold GT stripe is C9ZZ-6520000-P.
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Looks like that might do it ;)
Thanks for looking it up Bob
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jacks car I showed was clearly a gold stripe car from the remains I found and we used the NOS kit Bob shows. Also interesting in the Ford break down on the stripe colors shown, it does not show the red stripe available on a Black jade car and I have seen two original GT's with the red stripe.