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Offline S412gofast

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unknown holes in firewall
« on: October 14, 2022, 12:59:37 PM »
We are getting all in accord to install engine in 67 GT350 1341 and I now noticed the 2 holes circled in red.  Can anyone identify if these are factory or Shelby added or if I need to remove them.

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Carl 
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2022, 04:03:27 PM »
Slightly off topic, but I notice the unevenly spaced holes on the firewall for the export brace. Have you?
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2022, 06:43:24 PM »
No telling why there are holes there. Not factory and not typical of any 1967 Shelby.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2022, 02:53:21 PM »
We are getting all in accord to install engine in 67 GT350 1341 and I now noticed the 2 holes circled in red.  Can anyone identify if these are factory or Shelby added or if I need to remove them.

Thanks
Carl
You need to remove the holes if you want the firewall to look factory original.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2022, 02:54:44 PM »
Slightly off topic, but I notice the unevenly spaced holes on the firewall for the export brace. Have you?
Jim
The cowl brace hole pattern in the picture is typical of 67 Mustang.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2022, 04:04:54 PM »
The cowl brace hole pattern in the picture is typical of 67 Mustang.
The topic is about a 67 GT350.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2022, 05:42:16 PM »
The topic is about a 67 GT350.
Jim
The hole pattern is the same regardless of it 67 Mustang or GT350. 
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2022, 07:03:49 PM »
The hole pattern is the same regardless of it 67 Mustang or GT350. 
Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2022, 11:54:03 AM »
Oddly enough my Shelby, built in the same week, has a similar punched in hole.

I'll have to run a screw through it, but thought it was for the ground strap, albeit incorrectly located.

Are there any late February or early March '67 SJ cars with similar holes?
(I need to check the parts car as soon as I get over this cold).
Bill
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2022, 04:04:11 PM »
Mine is further over than Carl's pic.
What is weird is that the holes are not drilled but punched leaving a crater.

I'll dig into my disassembly pics and see if there is anything there.
So far it's just an odd coincidence and that our cars are not that far apart on Ford build date.

Update pic to add red circle.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2022, 12:14:02 PM by Bossbill »
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2022, 04:17:08 PM »
Mine is further over than Carl's pic.
What is weird is that the holes are not drilled but punched leaving a crater.

I'll dig into my disassembly pics and see if there is anything there.
So far it's just an odd coincidence and that our cars are not that far apart on Ford build date.

Bill I am thinking like you on this.  If someone wanted an extra hole in the firewall they would just drill it.  I do not think it is easy to create a hole like we have on our firewalls by punching method in these radiused areas to result in a hole within a depressed crater. 
« Last Edit: October 16, 2022, 04:21:45 PM by S412gofast »
1967 GT350 01341, FORD Build: 2/28/67 ; SAI Build 3/28/67
1966 GT 2+2, 4spd, PS, tinted windows, Raven Black w/Black Pony interior; FORD Build: 10/11/65
1986 SVO, Oxford White w/Leather interior
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2022, 05:37:18 PM »
I'm reluctant to drill a hole in the firewall as I don't know what's on the other side. An awl or punch "seems" safer.
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2022, 05:49:27 PM »
I thought Ford liked to do punched holes since the metal deforms and splays giving a lot more surface for a metal screw to bite.
This looks rather severe.
Bill
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2022, 06:01:59 PM »
I found some pics of when the car was up for sale. Yes, I keep almost 40 year old pics. The hole was there with nothing in it.

This car once had aftermarket air due to its location in the deep south. Lots of holes had to welded up. If I put my smart cap on this may well have been a way to feed a 12V electric line directly in-line with the inside evaporator. It could also be a way to to send power to the A/C clutch.

Time to make that hole go away.
Bill
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Re: unknown holes in firewall
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2022, 06:27:43 PM »
This car once had aftermarket air due to its location in the deep south. Lots of holes had to welded up. If I put my smart cap on this may well have been a way to feed a 12V electric line directly in-line with the inside evaporator. It could also be a way to to send power to the A/C clutch.
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