Author Topic: 1967-68 Safety Convenience System - Application, Components, Wiring, Lenses and Bulbs  (Read 41768 times)

Offline stangman39

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Got around to tinkering some more with the Fastback today.
Attached is a pic of my low fuel wiring coming off the taillight harness near the wheelhouse.
Mine looks to be only light green, I can't see a white stripe in it.  It runs to the front side of
the fuel tank and is held in place with a loop.  There is also what looks to be a black wire running with
the green one.  I assume this is the green wire I should try grounding to see if the low fuel light works?
I assume these 2 wires connect to the fuel sender harness?  From the factory were they joined with
bullet connectors?  I think my are spliced and taped.

I did also notice what looks to be the factory wiring at the cowl under the export brace just like someone posted a pic of
not too many posts back.

Also realized my drivers open triggers the door ajar light but nothing on the pass door so I'm guessing my door switch may need to be
cleaned or adjusted.

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In relation to John's (67gta289) and my continued pursuit for information related to the 1967-68 Safety Convenience System Article which we are trying to prepare for submission in the near (hopefully) future, we are requesting input from the readers of this thread.

Specifically, this involves the Low Fuel Light Proof Wire. For those who may not know, on early 1967’s, this is a Black wire that goes from the Starter side of the Solenoid, then down to the bottom of the Radiator Support, along the bottom of the support, then up and along the Driver’s side Inner Fender Aprons toward the Master Cylinder, then toward the Firewall where it ends with a triple female bullet connector that connects to a single male bullet connector at the end of a red wire that comes through the Firewall (see first picture attached). The sole purpose of this wire is to provide momentary power to light the Low Fuel Light to show that the bulb is working.

The Low Fuel Proof Wire as shown on the illustration noted above, is shown as Basic Part Number 9C877-A ; the complete Part Number, C7ZB-9C877-A is also shown in the  January 1967 dated Parts and Accessory Catalog (MPC), and noted as 130.00” long. In addition, John has documented this “Proof Wire” on three 1967 Mustangs with Factory Safety Convenience Systems, all with build dates prior to January 1 of 1967, and all having the “Proof Wire” routed as described above.

Now for the problem ; in the 1967 Electrical Assembly Manual reproduced by Jim Osborn Productions, page E7-8618-3, Dated 1-16-67, and noted “Effective with CZV1-AF-510284” shows the “Proof Wire” as Part Number C7ZB-14N322-A, and now routed from the Starter side of the solenoid, along the Passenger side Fender Support to the.frewall. While this appears to be the routing of the “Proof Wire” on all 1968 models (for which we need confirmation), the question remains whether or not this Revision was implemented on 1967 models.
The “question” remains for several reasons ; 1) we have no documented examples of 1967 Mustangs with Factory Safety Convenience Systems built after January 1, 1967 ; 2) while the page (E7-8618-3) noted above from the 1967 Electrical Assembly Manual notes that it is effective with “C7V1-AF-510284”, we have not found how this number relates to a date ; and 3), we have found no TSB, Special Service Letter, Notification Letter, or any other Ford documentation as to when, or if, this Revision was implemented on 1967 models.

In summary, we are asking that owners of 1967 and 1968 Mustangs equipped with known Factory Safety Convenience Systems provide us the following information :

1967 Owners
1)   The routing of your Proof Wire from the Starter Solenoid to the Firewall
2)   Your car’s Build Date and Plant.
3)     If your car also has Factory Cruise Control.

1968 Owners
1)   The routing of your Proof Wire from the Starter Solenoid to the Firewall.
2)   Your car's Build Date and Plant
3)   The color of your Proof Wire (interestingly, while the 1967 Ford Wiring Diagram Manual clearly notes it as “Black”, neither the 1968 Ford Wiring Diagram Manual, nor the 1968 Electrical Assembly Manual show the color of the Proof Wire).
4)  If your car also has Factory Cruise Control.

Your help in this matter will be greatly appreciated, as at least for now, it appears that this is the only way to find out approximately when, and if, this Revision occurred.

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Bob

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1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Proof wire RH side from soleniod, across core support to LH via harness plugs to single red male bullet with a female threee hole connector.

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Keith : Thanks for your prompt Reply. Just to be sure that I am understanding it correctly, this is not on your 67 Shelby, but on a 68 car (Nov 67 Date shown) ? Also, you are saying that the routing of the Proof Wire follows the wiring diagram I attached from the 1967 Ford Wiring Diagram Manual, and not as shown in the 1968 Electrical Assembly Manual, correct ?

Thanks.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Two for you...

1967 model year
1. Starter side of the solenoid, then down to the bottom of the radiator support, along the bottom of the support, then up and along the driver’s side inner fender aprons toward the mc, then toward the firewall where it ends with a triple female bullet connector that connects to a single male bullet connector at the end of a red wire that comes through the firewall.
2. December 10, 1966 Metuchen.

1967 model year
1. Starter side of the solenoid, along the passenger side shock tower support to the firewall where it ends with a triple female bullet connector that connects to a single male bullet connector at the end of a red wire that comes through the firewall.
2. March 21, 1967 San Jose

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Thanks gtamustang ! That is the first documented 67 built in 67 that we have.
Good start.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Keith : Thanks for your prompt Reply. Just to be sure that I am understanding it correctly, this is not on your 67 Shelby, but on a 68 car (Nov 67 Date shown) ? Also, you are saying that the routing of the Proof Wire follows the wiring diagram I attached from the 1967 Ford Wiring Diagram Manual, and not as shown in the 1968 Electrical Assembly Manual, correct ?

Thanks.

Bob

Bob, Keith has reported before that he has the Convenience Group on his 67 Shelby. I am sure he simply wrote 1967 instead of his Shelby's build date of November '66
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Richard : Yes, I knew about his 67 Shelby ; I just thought that he might have either also had a 68, or had come up with one.

Nice to "dream" anyway.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Keith : Thanks for your prompt Reply. Just to be sure that I am understanding it correctly, this is not on your 67 Shelby, but on a 68 car (Nov 67 Date shown) ? Also, you are saying that the routing of the Proof Wire follows the wiring diagram I attached from the 1967 Ford Wiring Diagram Manual, and not as shown in the 1968 Electrical Assembly Manual, correct ?

Thanks.

Bob
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Bob, Correction Nov 67. It is my vehicle.

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Bob, I have also had a chance to study a couple untouched vehicles with this option, one with 19,000 miles that belongs to the owner of NPD and was on display in the Ocala, Florida showroom for some time. It has the same routing of the fuel proofing wire. Right from starter solenoid, across the bottom of the core support, left side engine compartment and about half way across the firewall. It is a tripple female bullet connector. I have not seen one vehicle to date with it ran from the solenoid, down the shock tower support and to the single bullet connector centered on the top of the firewall.

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Keith : Is there anyway you can find out the Build Date of the NPD Owner's 19,000 mile example.

Thanks,

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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None of the pictures I have are clear enough or show enough to be of help with wire routing. Below is a list of cars I found in my data base that had the option. Hope this helps in some way

7F02C1292xx Real build 05M
7F01S1350xx Real build 19M
7F02K1580xx Real build 20B

7R01C1390xx Projected   19L
7R03S1515xx Projected   12M
7R02C1518xx Projected 13M

7T02C1865xx Real build 18A
7T02S2279xx Real build 17D

8F02S1000xx Real build 2H (show car)

8R02J1107xx Real build 11M
8R03S1404xx Real build 07B
8R01J1529xx Real build 25C
8R02R1722xx Real build 29U
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Interesting topic!

Jan. 67 Dearborn

From solenoid follows harness along front of radiator, up drivers side to about 3 inches from firewall. Then over booster through clip on firewall just for it. Ends in 3 position receptacle, about 4 inch wire with plug then goes through firewall hole with goop around it. Firewall hole about mid way between shock tower braces.

Upper Left - DOOR
Lower left - BELT
Upper Right - FUEL
Lower Right - PARK  (Flashes)

If the engine is being cranked for awhile the FUEL light will flash.

Jim

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Belt, Door, Fuel and Brake. Left to right.

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Keith : Is there anyway you can find out the Build Date of the NPD Owner's 19,000 mile example.

Thanks,

Bob
Bob, I was at NPD in January and the vehicle is no longer on display. I will call and ask Wade if he can provide the VIN for our little study.

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