Author Topic: 1967-68 Safety Convenience System - Application, Components, Wiring, Lenses and Bulbs  (Read 41792 times)

Offline 196667Bob

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Interesting topic!

Jan. 67 Dearborn

From solenoid follows harness along front of radiator, up drivers side to about 3 inches from firewall. Then over booster through clip on firewall just for it. Ends in 3 position receptacle, about 4 inch wire with plug then goes through firewall hole with goop around it. Firewall hole about mid way between shock tower braces.

Upper Left - DOOR
Lower left - BELT
Upper Right - FUEL
Lower Right - PARK  (Flashes)

If the engine is being cranked for awhile the FUEL light will flash.

Jim

Jim : Thanks for your Reply. A couple of questions :

1) What day of January 1967 ?

2) Since you added information about the lenses ;
     a)  Is it "BELT" or "BELTS  ?
     b)  Color of lenses (Red or Blue) ?
     c)  Are lenses "backlit" or is printing in white on face of lenses ?

Thanks again for your help.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Keith :On your Reply #   143, didn't you mean "Nov 1966  ?

Belt, Door, Fuel and Brake. Left to right.

Since you added the above information on the lenses, a couple of questions :

a)  Is it "BELT" or "BELTS  ?

b)  Color of Lenses ?

c)  Are lenses "backlit" or is printing in white on face of lenses ?

Thanks again,

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Offline 196667Bob

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Bob, I was at NPD in January and the vehicle is no longer on display. I will call and ask Wade if he can provide the VIN for our little study.

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Keith : Thanks for your offer to contact Wade. When you do, the VIN number isn't necessary, just the "Build Date" and whether the "Proof Wire" heads toward the Firewall on the Passenger's side or the Driver's side.

Thanks,

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
MCA 04909

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Jim : Thanks for your Reply. A couple of questions :

1) What day of January 1967 ?

2) Since you added information about the lenses ;
     a)  Is it "BELT" or "BELTS  ?
     b)  Color of lenses (Red or Blue) ?
     c)  Are lenses "backlit" or is printing in white on face of lenses ?

Thanks again for your help.

Bob

Jan 6th.

Black circle (no backlit) purple/blue DOOR letters
Red circle (backlit) white BELT letters (no S)
Green circle (backlit) white FUEL letters
Black circle (no backlit) red PARK letters

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Keith : Thanks for your offer to contact Wade. When you do, the VIN number isn't necessary, just the "Build Date" and whether the "Proof Wire" heads toward the Firewall on the Passenger's side or the Driver's side.

Thanks,

Bob

Scheduled 12/16/66 actual 12/19/66
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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John : Thanks. Being that it is a 1966 Build Date, based on the known 1966 Builds we have documented, it probably has the Proof Wire along the Driver's side, but would be nice to know for sure.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Don't know if this will help but here is a picture of the dash panel from 8F03S1232xx. Sorry don't have a real build date. Will keep an eye out for more

Jeff Speegle

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Offline 196667Bob

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Jeff : Thanks. We don't have a lot of pictures of 68's with the SCS, so yes, this helps.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Jeff : Thanks. We don't have a lot of pictures of 68's with the SCS, so yes, this helps.

Bob

A few more pics, including back side found on an eBay sale:
Richard Urch

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Jeff : Thanks once again for posting some pictures. It's good to have some more 1968 info.
A word of caution though for those viewing these. The bezels and lenses shown with the Dash Panel appear to both be the Scott Drake reproductions. I say this based on two observations. First, the use of "SEAT" for the Seat Belt Warning Light only has been shown to appear on the reproductions. In the research and documentation done so far on 1967 and 1968 Mustangs with the Safety Convenience Option, the majority have "BELTS", and two have been noted as "BELT", singular. And secondly, the steel "tubes" to which the bezels/ lenses shown in your pictures are attached (the reproduction bezels/ lenses do not come with these "tubes") are not correct for the Mustangs or the non-padded console Cougars. The correct tubes have the "prongs" that hold the assembly in the dash panel or console, located right next to the "mushroomed" end of the tube (see first picture attached). The "tubes" shown that are attached to the bezels clearly show that the "prongs" are not at the end of the tube. These tubes were used on the Early Cougars with the padded consoles and on most 1964-67 Thunderbirds (see second picture attached). These "tubes" can only be used successfully on the Mustangs with the addition of a 3/16" spacer.

Thanks again,

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Jeff : Thanks once again for posting some pictures. It's good to have some more 1968 info.
A word of caution though for those viewing these. The bezels and lenses shown with the Dash Panel appear to both be the Scott Drake reproductions. I say this based on two observations. First, the use of "SEAT" for the Seat Belt Warning Light only has been shown to appear on the reproductions. In the research and documentation done so far on 1967 and 1968 Mustangs with the Safety Convenience Option, the majority have "BELTS", and two have been noted as "BELT", singular. And secondly, the steel "tubes" to which the bezels/ lenses shown in your pictures are attached (the reproduction bezels/ lenses do not come with these "tubes") are not correct for the Mustangs or the non-padded console Cougars. The correct tubes have the "prongs" that hold the assembly in the dash panel or console, located right next to the "mushroomed" end of the tube (see first picture attached). The "tubes" shown that are attached to the bezels clearly show that the "prongs" are not at the end of the tube. These tubes were used on the Early Cougars with the padded consoles and on most 1964-67 Thunderbirds (see second picture attached). These "tubes" can only be used successfully on the Mustangs with the addition of a 3/16" spacer.

Thanks again,

Bob

I wonder what 68 Mustangs WITH Air Conditioning have. They have a padded console surface and radio face panel. Likely the 2nd version shown in your pictures
Richard Urch

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Here are some more details on the routing of the proof wire C7ZB-9C877-A. 

Also from this thread: http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=14006.msg128726#msg128726

There is a question about proof wire taping and clamps for support purposes.  I found no evidence of these in the attached document.  Perhaps this explains why some of the wire is missing!
« Last Edit: May 27, 2019, 08:38:52 PM by 67gta289 »
John
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This is a very interesting thread. One thing I did not see over the previous 11 pages was the electrical schematic from Ford. Here is the '68 schematic.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Here is the 1968 Convenience panel General Arrangement for the wiring and components.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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This schematic is also found in the electrical book:
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock