1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year > 1967 Mustang
Ball Joints 67, Upper and Lower Arm Rebuilding
67gta289:
Richard, my comments are:
1. Regarding the upper ball joint boot, as stated in a previous post I did experience that the correct repro boots (somewhat of an oxymoron) had an inner metal ring inside diameter that was too small. It would bind on the ball joint stud, and not "slip" as the spindle was turned. Since the stud is tapered, it is somewhat of a crap shoot and difficult to check on the bench. Something to be wary of. I had to file mine in place, and it was time consuming.
2. I bought tooling from http://www.rivetsinstock.com/?gclid=CP2Vw-vA3dECFRu2wAodpZkB0g which is about 5 mile from me. I much prefer riveting using the press - the air tool + vise + clamp method was pretty violent and I was concerned about collateral damage. With a press you can be slow but sure.
3. I've attached pictures of what I think would be correct for your car
4. For the lowers I used correct repro boots (ugh) and did not have the interference problem discussed above regarding the uppers. I ended up reusing original retainer plates, I did not like the differences in the repro. On mine the original rivets were not waffled like the upper, they were a dome style.
67gtasanjose:
--- Quote from: 67gta289 on January 25, 2017, 11:24:13 AM ---1. Regarding the upper ball joint boot, as stated in a previous post I did experience that the correct repro boots ... Something to be wary of.
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Understood. I have a pair of the reproductions for UPPER & LOWERs, and a NOS set to match up with. I have un-torn originals too for lowers but they are getting changed (swollen)
--- Quote from: 67gta289 on January 25, 2017, 11:24:13 AM ---2. I bought tooling from http://www.rivetsinstock.com/?gclid=CP2Vw-vA3dECFRu2wAodpZkB0g which is about 5 mile from me. I much prefer riveting using the press - the air tool + vise + clamp method was pretty violent and I was concerned about collateral damage. With a press you can be slow but sure.
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Got it. Yes, good sources of correct tooling and experiences of "Don't do it this way..." are a great help. I can practice a little on a spare lower I have in setting things so that helps too. I could consider sending them to a restorer, but like you...I'd like to try. I get very similar jobs all of the time at my day-job of owning a repair shop so it may come in handy to have tooling and rivets to do this for other vehicles outside the vintage Mustang spectrum.
--- Quote from: 67gta289 on January 25, 2017, 11:24:13 AM ---3. I've attached pictures of what I think would be correct for your car
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The picture of the UPPERS helps a lot. I still have the original lowers in place but I am sure your images will help other readers.
--- Quote from: 67gta289 on January 25, 2017, 11:24:13 AM ---4. For the lowers I used correct repro boots (ugh) and did not have the interference problem discussed above regarding the uppers. I ended up reusing original retainer plates, I did not like the differences in the repro. On mine the original rivets were not waffled like the upper, they were a dome style.
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Thanks. I'll consider the match-up of the retainers after I take these apart. (see attached picture) The Daniel Carpenter reproductions that Va. Classic sent look pretty good next to the assembled original. As far as the rivets, good confirmation for the lowers. Same as what I have and I know my LEFT lower is original, my RIGHT lower was off another December 66 San Jose and is identical to my November 2nd car and looks much like the April 67 SJ I have as an extra arm.
Good to see at least one thing that didn't change (much) on a 67 Mustang over the course of the production year! I still need to order the lower arm bushings, sites were asking the diameter when I was searching and did not want the wrong ones so I waited. Not sure when or why there would be two different lower bushing diameters. Maybe another reader knows why/when they changed some of them.
Bob Gaines:
I am anxiously standing by to hear about anyones experience in pressing the rivets. I am wondering how well the 20 ton press does in pressing the rivets . Best of luck. Keep us posted .
jwc66k:
--- Quote from: 67gta289 on January 25, 2017, 11:24:13 AM ---2. I bought tooling from http://www.rivetsinstock.com/?gclid=CP2Vw-vA3dECFRu2wAodpZkB0g
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I have bought tooling and rivets from them as well. Could you be more specific with a link as to what tooling you actually got.
Jim
67350#1242:
--- Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 25, 2017, 05:20:49 PM ---I am anxiously standing by to hear about anyones experience in pressing the rivets. I am wondering how well the 20 ton press does in pressing the rivets . Best of luck. Keep us posted .
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+1 Is 20 ton big enough?
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