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Title: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: 9F94M567042 on August 27, 2020, 03:13:19 AM
Hey Folks,
Does anyone know for sure what color the front and rear shock absorbers were for 67 to 73 Mustangs & Cougars?
Were they Black, Blue or ???
Did it depend on the type of shock? Standard vs AutoFlex vs Autoflex HD?
Assembly plant difference?
Any proof one way or the other that exist out there?
Thanks,
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: RoyceP on August 27, 2020, 09:51:22 AM
I've owned dozens of 1967 - 1968 NOS Cougar and Mustang shocks over the years. Assembly line shocks were always black with an identifying daub of paint in various colors depending on application. The daubs look like they were done with a rag dipped in a can of paint - very crude.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Coralsnake on August 27, 2020, 10:22:43 AM
I think that question is more complicated than it appears. It depends on how a specific car was built and with what options.

Auto flex was Fords service part line.

You will need to be more specific on the year, assembly plant and options to get an accurate answer
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: carlite65 on August 27, 2020, 10:24:04 AM
'autoflex" ?? never heard of that. maybe mean autolite...
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Coralsnake on August 27, 2020, 10:36:43 AM
FoMoCo, Autolite and Motorcraft were all used during that time frame

Autoflex shocks were marketed through Ford as service parts,  and are not assembly line correct to the best of my knowledge.

The original question is very broad. It literally covers over 3.5 million cars!
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: carlite65 on August 27, 2020, 10:40:18 AM
still never heard of that brand....maybe i learn something today?
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Coralsnake on August 27, 2020, 11:32:53 AM
Autoflex was a line of shocks marketed under the specific brand name. It is not a brand in itself. 
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 27, 2020, 12:20:57 PM
I think that question is more complicated than it appears. It depends on how a specific car was built and with what options.

Auto flex was Fords service part line.

You will need to be more specific on the year, assembly plant and options to get an accurate answer
+1 . The only shocks that were blue that I am aware of would be the later production 66 GT350 and 68 -early production 69 Shelby.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: RoyceP on August 29, 2020, 10:08:23 PM
Shelby shocks would not have been used on the assembly line. Nor would Auto Flex.

+1 . The only shocks that were blue that I am aware of would be the later production 66 GT350 and 68 -early production 69 Shelby.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 29, 2020, 11:45:52 PM
Shelby shocks would not have been used on the assembly line. Nor would Auto Flex.
Royce, you are misinformed Shelby shocks (not Koni) were installed on the Ford assemblyline .
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: RoyceP on August 30, 2020, 12:14:12 AM
I did not know that! Thanks Bob.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 30, 2020, 12:23:22 AM
I did not know that! Thanks Bob.
Not a problem . It will most likely be you informing me next time.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: RoyceP on August 30, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
So I have a shock color question, but I don't think they were assembly line shocks. Every year at All Ford Columbus one of my first stops was a vendor who always bought loads of NOS parts that were returned to depot by Ford dealers. He generally had 100 - 200 shocks in their original boxes. Some were assembly line, many were service replacement. One year he had a pair of front shocks that were white and had Shelby stickers on them. I looked at them very closely and engraved in each shock was "Gabriel Strider". They were typical looking 1965 - 70 style front shocks that had been sitting in some dealer's parts bin for decades.

What was I looking at? He was asking $200 for the pair, this was in the 1990's and I was more interested in the C7WY and C8WY shocks that were selling for $15 - $25 each.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 30, 2020, 02:07:29 PM
So I have a shock color question, but I don't think they were assembly line shocks. Every year at All Ford Columbus one of my first stops was a vendor who always bought loads of NOS parts that were returned to depot by Ford dealers. He generally had 100 - 200 shocks in their original boxes. Some were assembly line, many were service replacement. One year he had a pair of front shocks that were white and had Shelby stickers on them. I looked at them very closely and engraved in each shock was "Gabriel Strider". They were typical looking 1965 - 70 style front shocks that had been sitting in some dealer's parts bin for decades.

What was I looking at? He was asking $200 for the pair, this was in the 1990's and I was more interested in the C7WY and C8WY shocks that were selling for $15 - $25 each.
Gabriel was the OEM MFG of the adjustable shocks used on Mustangs and most notably Shelby's. The genuine white Shelby shocks with Shelby stickers on them were used starting in late March of 1969 until the end of 69 production (70 Shelbys were rebadged 69's). All of the adjustable front shocks used on 66-70 Shelby's had a distinct looking disc ring under the shock head used for indication of the adjustment of firmness .  They would have a C9ZX engineering number prefix if genuine white ones . Unlike the other year so called Shelby adjustable shocks which because of options they could find their way on to regular Mustangs besides Shelby's. The C9ZX marked shocks were Shelby unique. Gabrial adjustable Strider shocks were the OEM after market equivalent to the ones used on Shelby's. For about 30 years after Ford obsoleted the Ford /Gabriel adjustable shocks the Striders were a very close alternative that many people used on their Shelby's. Branda sold them for decades.  The aftermarket Striders came painted white and it wasn't uncommon to find a set of the aftermarket shocks with Shelby stickers on them so other details had to be used to determine if genuine made for Ford Shelby shocks or not.   Over the years the Striders changed in shape too so those things have to be taken into account.The aftermarket adjustable Striders have been obsolete for about 15-20 years now. The C9ZX white shocks with Shelby stickers were some of the rarest shocks Ford produced For Mustang/Shelby by numbers only being used on 69 Shelby's for a approximate 3-4 months. With all of that said it is hard to say for certain if you were looking at genuine or aftermarket Shocks without more details.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: RoyceP on September 12, 2020, 05:42:59 PM
These were like his other shocks, NOS but shelf worn from rough handling. They has sort of an odd steel circle with holes in it at the top of the shaft, I did not know what the purpose of the circle was.

I suspect some Shelby guy was the buyer eventually. Always puzzled me because I had bought some Striders new from an auto part store in the mid - 1970's and these were quite different.

Gabriel was the OEM MFG of the adjustable shocks used on Mustangs and most notably Shelby's. The genuine white Shelby shocks with Shelby stickers on them were used starting in late March of 1969 until the end of 69 production (70 Shelbys were rebadged 69's). All of the adjustable front shocks used on 66-70 Shelby's had a distinct looking disc ring under the shock head used for indication of the adjustment of firmness .  They would have a C9ZX engineering number prefix if genuine white ones . Unlike the other year so called Shelby adjustable shocks which because of options they could find their way on to regular Mustangs besides Shelby's. The C9ZX marked shocks were Shelby unique. Gabrial adjustable Strider shocks were the OEM after market equivalent to the ones used on Shelby's. For about 30 years after Ford obsoleted the Ford /Gabriel adjustable shocks the Striders were a very close alternative that many people used on their Shelby's. Branda sold them for decades.  The aftermarket Striders came painted white and it wasn't uncommon to find a set of the aftermarket shocks with Shelby stickers on them so other details had to be used to determine if genuine made for Ford Shelby shocks or not.   Over the years the Striders changed in shape too so those things have to be taken into account.The aftermarket adjustable Striders have been obsolete for about 15-20 years now. The C9ZX white shocks with Shelby stickers were some of the rarest shocks Ford produced For Mustang/Shelby by numbers only being used on 69 Shelby's for a approximate 3-4 months. With all of that said it is hard to say for certain if you were looking at genuine or aftermarket Shocks without more details.
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: J_Speegle on September 12, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
These were like his other shocks, NOS but shelf worn from rough handling. They has sort of an odd steel circle with holes in it at the top of the shaft, I did not know what the purpose of the circle was.

I suspect some Shelby guy was the buyer eventually. Always puzzled me because I had bought some Striders new from an auto part store in the mid - 1970's and these were quite different.

There are more that four different versions (over time) of the Striders. Have collected pictures or physical examples of most of them as I've run across them over the years
Title: Re: 67 to 73 Assembly line Shock color
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 12, 2020, 06:57:24 PM
These were like his other shocks, NOS but shelf worn from rough handling. They has sort of an odd steel circle with holes in it at the top of the shaft, I did not know what the purpose of the circle was.

I suspect some Shelby guy was the buyer eventually. Always puzzled me because I had bought some Striders new from an auto part store in the mid - 1970's and these were quite different.
Royce,from my reply #13 ,"All of the adjustable front shocks used on 66-70 Shelby's had a distinct looking disc ring under the shock head used for indication of the adjustment of firmness . " As Jeff mentioned the striders changed over time . Some had the adjustor ring with the holes others had a smaller ring with just a notch used as a adjustment indicator . The in the know Shelby crowd wanted the ones with the holes like the factory Shelby shocks had . Myself and others went to the trouble of making up the ring with the holes to modify the later Strader front shock for a closer original look on the engine compartment side.