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Offline PraireBronze

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Does this carb look right to the experts?
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:57:12 PM »
http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/1964-1-2-through-1966-mustang-parts-sale/952609-autolite-c4gf-af.html

Does this carb look right for Oct '64 SJ automatic?  I've been on the lookout for this carb number, and now that I see this one for sale, I thought I would run it by the experts before pulling the trigger.

Thanks

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1965 Prairie Bronze 2+2 (under construction)
Build Oct '64 San Jose
289 4V Automatic Transmission (A-code clone :P )
Black Std Interior
AC, PS, Style Steels, 1" Drop, Konis
Aluminized 2 1/4 Exhaust, Tri-Ys

Offline ChrisV289

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2016, 11:12:16 PM »
I think that is for a 64.5 with a D code motor.
Chris
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1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2016, 11:20:37 PM »
I'll need to backtrack and see if I can figure out where I came up with this number, but I believe it was probably from a chart in the Ford shop manual.
- Tim -

1965 Prairie Bronze 2+2 (under construction)
Build Oct '64 San Jose
289 4V Automatic Transmission (A-code clone :P )
Black Std Interior
AC, PS, Style Steels, 1" Drop, Konis
Aluminized 2 1/4 Exhaust, Tri-Ys

Offline Dino1

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 07:35:14 AM »
Try this site:

http://www.mustangtek.com/4100/ford4100.html

Early 64
C4ZF-C auto and manual trans.

Late 64
C4GF-AF auto trans,
C4GF-AE manual trans.

Offline PraireBronze

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2016, 02:01:23 PM »
Ok, let me be clear, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just siting my source.  ;)

At the end of the Fuel System section of the Ford 1965 Comet, Falcon, Fairlane and  Mustang Shop Manual (the one with the red cover) there is an Application Chart.

It lists C4ZF-E & F for 260 engines. 
It lists C4GF-AE & AF, C5ZF-C, D, E, & F for 289 engines.  Mine being Oct '64, seems like the C4GF would be appropriate.  But I will defer to the experts.

Looking at the mustangtek chart, I'm confused about all the references to 64 & 64.5 289 applications.  Maybe my Mustang trivia has become fuzzy over the years, but I thought 64.5 = 260 (other than HiPo) and 65 = 289?
- Tim -

1965 Prairie Bronze 2+2 (under construction)
Build Oct '64 San Jose
289 4V Automatic Transmission (A-code clone :P )
Black Std Interior
AC, PS, Style Steels, 1" Drop, Konis
Aluminized 2 1/4 Exhaust, Tri-Ys

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2016, 03:17:53 PM »
Maybe this will help

W/Manual
C5ZF-A
C5ZF-G W/Road draft tube which I wouldn't expect on an Oct car


W/Automatic
C5ZF-B
C5ZF-H W/Road draft tube which I wouldn't expect on an Oct car

In 64 they produced 289 4V non-hipo under the code D for domestic orders. BTW if your not a member over there you can't see the pictures ;)
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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 04:25:15 PM »
Ok, let me be clear, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just siting my source.  ;)

At the end of the Fuel System section of the Ford 1965 Comet, Falcon, Fairlane and  Mustang Shop Manual (the one with the red cover) there is an Application Chart.

It lists C4ZF-E & F for 260 engines. 
It lists C4GF-AE & AF, C5ZF-C, D, E, & F for 289 engines.  Mine being Oct '64, seems like the C4GF would be appropriate.  But I will defer to the experts.
The 1965 Shop Manual contains information for both the 64 1/2 Mustangs and 65 Mustangs. Ford did not sell 64 1/2 Mustangs but classified them as 1965 models for sales purposes, so both sets of information are included in the 65 manual. Production for 1965 Mustangs started in August of 1964 so all cars built after that date were "real" 1965 models, including yours. Technically, the V-8 Mustang engines (except 289HP) for 1964 1/2 were of the low compression type to use regular low octane gas as opposed to hi octane (aka hi-test) and the carburetors were set up for the low octane gas. In 1965, Ford V-8 engines were built to all use hi octane gas.
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Offline ChrisV289

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 09:39:34 PM »
This one might be right for your car:

https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/121922812132
Chris
1965 Honey Gold Fastback (SJ 10/29/64)
1965 Caspian Blue Fastback (SJ 06/03/65)
2009 V6 Mustang Coupe

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Re: Does this carb look right to the experts?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2016, 11:38:20 PM »
Do you have a road draft tube or PCV valve setup?

PCV
- Tim -

1965 Prairie Bronze 2+2 (under construction)
Build Oct '64 San Jose
289 4V Automatic Transmission (A-code clone :P )
Black Std Interior
AC, PS, Style Steels, 1" Drop, Konis
Aluminized 2 1/4 Exhaust, Tri-Ys