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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Interior & Trunk => Topic started by: fast66 on March 04, 2014, 03:42:49 PM
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Haven't heard so much good about auto custom carpets recently, so... what brand and were do you guys buy your carpets nowadays?
I need a medium blue for my 66 2+2 with interior code 62. Also need a red one for a 64 Fairlane 4 door, interior code 25.
Thanks in advance!
Claes
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ho ho, anyone there ??
I would thing that someone on this site may have bought a good carper sometime recently :-)
thanks,
Claes
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I have been very dissatisfied with the ACC product as well. A few year ago I found a company called Motor South carpet. They provided a great replacement for our 67 GTA both in color and quality. I went back to them to buy carpet for my next project and could not find them. I latter discovered that ACC had bought them out. That is one way to succeed in business is some one is beating you buy them. Sorry I could not be more help. I would like to find a better source too.
Marty
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Recently my local auto upholstery guy who I've been using for years said the ACC carpet was about the best going, I was VERY surprised by this.
5 years ago when my car was restored my restorer, after TRYING to get the ACC carpet to fit literally ripped it out and threw it out!
He found a company called TRIM PARTS that had carpet available for my '65 Convertible and he installed IT, mind you it was better than ACCs, but a long way from the fit of NOS FORD carpet.
It seems SO simple for such a large company as ACC to just take a floor pan from a given car and mold it right for the first time, but I guess not.
I really never hear any rumblings from the GM crowd as to who they source their carpets from......sure would like to find SOMEONE that gives a crap enough to make a good fitting carpet!
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Sorry to hear about your discontent. Have you called ACC to let them know about your complaint?
I went to their site and they boast: •Custom Molded Automotive Carpeting, •Original Molded Fit, Colors and Materials •High Quality Auto Carpet materials.
Is this an issue with the second and third generation Mustang also? I will be looking to replace my tired old original carpet soon. Carm.
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I personally have NOT contacted ACC about "MY" discontent, I believe that many professional restorers have though.
There have been lots of threads on carpet problems over the years and it all seems to center around ACCs bad fitting stuff.
If I thought the reps at car shows from ACC gave a crap or knew anything I'd just about take the seats, console, ect out of my car and ask them to install a set of their carpet right there at the show right in front of everyone.
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The 2 main issues I have seen with carpet over the past 5 or so years is that they are making it way too thin. Can hold up to a light and see through it. The other issue is I have seen some where the front mat comes up way too far onto the seat riser. It should only crest the edge and go back a couple inches, just enough for the seat studs to go through. I have seen some carpet where that edge is half-way in the middle of the seat riser, which is just totally wrong.
I think a lot of folks expect carpet to just fall right in and fit. I've actually never encountered that, I always have to stretch, trim and do some magic to get them to look right. They usually go in and fit nice with some skill and persuasion.
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I ordered mt carpet from Virginia Mustang-they sell ACC carpet with mass-backing on it. At the time I heard this was the best fitting option for carpet. All carpet sites I was on just seemed to get their stuff from ACC and resell it. Carpet seems to fit pretty good...not perfect though. With some tweaking it'll look OK.
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I was not impressed with the mass-back carpet I bought for a '68 Shelby convertible about 5 years ago. Instead of seeing through the carpet, could see right through the loop and see the black backing. They need to address the thin carpet and stop trying to cut corners. People will pay more for a good product, it wouldn't be the end of the world if folks had to pay $200 for a carpet set... which compared to many other carpet sets for vintage cars is dirt cheap.
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I was not impressed with the mass-back carpet I bought for a '68 Shelby convertible about 5 years ago. Instead of seeing through the carpet, could see right through the loop and see the black backing. They need to address the thin carpet and stop trying to cut corners. People will pay more for a good product, it wouldn't be the end of the world if folks had to pay $200 for a carpet set... which compared to many other carpet sets for vintage cars is dirt cheap.
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I was not impressed with the mass-back carpet I bought for a '68 Shelby convertible about 5 years ago. Instead of seeing through the carpet, could see right through the loop and see the black backing. They need to address the thin carpet and stop trying to cut corners. People will pay more for a good product, it wouldn't be the end of the world if folks had to pay $200 for a carpet set... which compared to many other carpet sets for vintage cars is dirt cheap.
I have been very dissatisfied with the ACC product as well. A few year ago I found a company called Motor South carpet. They provided a great replacement for our 67 GTA both in color and quality. I went back to them to buy carpet for my next project and could not find them. I latter discovered that ACC had bought them out. That is one way to succeed in business is some one is beating you buy them. Sorry I could not be more help. I would like to find a better source too.
Marty
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Who owns ACC anyway? We should have them made aware of our collective discontent. It would be nice of them to answer this blog personally. They should remember that WE are their bread and butter. Carm.
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Who owns ACC anyway? We should have them made aware of our collective discontent. It would be nice of them to answer this blog personally. They should remember that WE are their bread and butter. Carm.
Originally it was a family business who sold out years ago. Now IIRC, its a small segment of a large corporation.
Plenty of bad PR on the web of years. unfortunately as long as people are buying them there will be no change.
Not sure if they only supply the aftermarket - if they also supply the auto industry that would make us all most insignificant.
Lat time I ordered a set I returned them three times before I received on that would work and fit. The suppliers (major and minor Mustang Parts locations) might have the companies ear more than an individual. Just a thought and their going to hate me for mentioning it
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I just installed my carpet over this past weekend. Black ACC carpet for a 64 1/2 coupe. It was a special order through VA Mustang as it was coming directly from the factory. (64 1/2 only cover to the rockers not up and over like later 65/66's and up years. I have installed several sets of carpet over the years and I believe they have always been ACC. The one issue I noted from a few years back was that they faded quickly from black to brown due to sun exposure, (over the trans hump and,, my fastbacks rear fold down turned brown the quickest in about 1 year.) I am still very pleased with the quality and fit with this last purchase. One thing I noticed is that the center hole for the shifter was not cut out. This was not the case before.. not a big issue now as I had the shifter out ahead of time. Had no issues otherwise. I have never done a 64 1/2 before but the sewn edges look correct to me?? The attached pic was after I marked for the console install. Hope they line up when I place it back for final assembly! Anyway, the carpet looks dark brown but it is indeed a rich black. Must have been the flash.
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Thanks for all replies and opinions. Seems I have to go for ACC...
Was positively surprised about the sewn edges of the 64½ carpet. That is what I want for the Fairlane.
My biggest problem may be that if I buy it in the US when I am over for the 50s aniv, it may not fit when I get home :-(
Anyway, thanks again!
Claes
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I would suggest that you google ACC Carpet is crap first before you buy from them. You will see that there are alot more people displeased with this product. I was surprised, it's a problem with other car makes also. If you Google ACC Carpet by itself you will just get all they dealer that are trying to sell the cheap carpet to you.
I'm in the same boat as I need to replace the carpet in my 69. Did anybody have a satisfactory result replacing the carpets in a 69/70 Mustang?
This company doesn't care or they wouldn't have soo many people thrashing their reputation on the web..
Carm.
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............ Did anybody have a satisfactory result replacing the carpets in a 69/70 Mustang?.......
Yes - after a few send backs
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I have tried several times (unsuccessfully) to persuade David MacNeil, the guy who does the super-fitting Weather-Tech floor mats, to get into high-grade custom fit carpet. It's a 100% Made in USA company and he has perfected the laser-measure to 3d model process. In my opinion, he would be our best gamble for for what we are looking for.
This guy is one of my true American Heroes and I don't use that word often.
I would suspect that a retro-fit carpet division would generate as much revenue for him as his truck/suv molded mat division.
http://assets.weathertech.com/assets/1/7/what_matters_to_you_1212.pdf
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I have tried several times (unsuccessfully) to persuade David MacNeil, the guy who does the super-fitting Weather-Tech floor mats, to get into high-grade custom fit carpet. It's a 100% Made in USA company and he has perfected the laser-measure to 3d model process. In my opinion, he would be our best gamble for for what we are looking for.
This guy is one of my true American Heroes and I don't use that word often.
I would suspect that a retro-fit carpet division would generate as much revenue for him as his truck/suv molded mat division.
http://assets.weathertech.com/assets/1/7/what_matters_to_you_1212.pdf
Plus 1 big fan of Weathertech!!
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I have tried several times (unsuccessfully) to persuade David MacNeil, the guy who does the super-fitting Weather-Tech floor mats, to get into high-grade custom fit carpet. It's a 100% Made in USA company and he has perfected the laser-measure to 3d model process. In my opinion, he would be our best gamble for for what we are looking for.
This guy is one of my true American Heroes and I don't use that word often.
I would suspect that a retro-fit carpet division would generate as much revenue for him as his truck/suv molded mat division.
http://assets.weathertech.com/assets/1/7/what_matters_to_you_1212.pdf
+1 Weathertech. Love your children, buy American. Carm.
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After seeing several cars with the thin replacement carpet and reading here about everyone's experiences, I decided to put factory carpet back in my 69 GT350. The carpet has cleaned up alright but I need some tips on cleaning the orange sewn in mats. They have a few very small stains and just have a slight overall dingy look. I know someone on this forum has a magic trick or two to share. I have tried Bleach White, Fantastic, Tuff Stuff and Blue Magic carpet cleaners and they just don't look as good as I would like.
Thanks TOB
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You might try using some Soft Scrub (with bleach in it-marked on the label) on the red sewn in mats only.....be careful of the actual carpet.
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I'd wipe it with lacquer thinner and if that didn't clean it, would use some plastic spray dye.
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I just installed an ACC mass back carpet in my 1965 convertible. I put new factory underlayment underneath and the fit is very nice.
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I just installed my carpet over this past weekend. Black ACC carpet for a 64 1/2 coupe. It was a special order through VA Mustang as it was coming directly from the factory. (64 1/2 only cover to the rockers not up and over like later 65/66's and up years. I have installed several sets of carpet over the years and I believe they have always been ACC. The one issue I noted from a few years back was that they faded quickly from black to brown due to sun exposure, (over the trans hump and,, my fastbacks rear fold down turned brown the quickest in about 1 year.) I am still very pleased with the quality and fit with this last purchase. One thing I noticed is that the center hole for the shifter was not cut out. This was not the case before.. not a big issue now as I had the shifter out ahead of time. Had no issues otherwise. I have never done a 64 1/2 before but the sewn edges look correct to me?? The attached pic was after I marked for the console install. Hope they line up when I place it back for final assembly! Anyway, the carpet looks dark brown but it is indeed a rich black. Must have been the flash.
How did the 64.5 carpet fit? I plan on ordering a kit soon for my early 65 FB and decided to go with the ivy gold color since that is the best choice so far. Any issues with the fit along the edges? I ordered the vinyl from SMS fabrics up in Oregon as the ivy gold color they had matched perfectly compared to what other places had...
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I am also looking for a good carpet for my 70 B2 black standard int,i have seen the mass backed ones that npd has ,any comments are welcome thanks, chuck.
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Has anyone tried the ones sold by Mr. Mustang? I saw a set in Columbus and they are so molded that they literally stand up on their own, and the weave appeared nice and tight (no light showing through!). The one they had on display was I think a '70 and had the toe pad which I believe is incorrect.....??
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............. The one they had on display was I think a '70 and had the toe pad which I believe is incorrect.....??
Correct
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i saw that also. it was Trim Parts brand. it looked good as you say. i don't know if ACC also owns them. i hope not.