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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1966 Mustang => Topic started by: edwardgt350 on January 20, 2018, 01:19:15 AM

Title: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: edwardgt350 on January 20, 2018, 01:19:15 AM
is there a source for correct satin wiper arms?
brush metal. some suppliers are selling painted arms not actual brushed metal.
tia
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: NEFaurora on January 20, 2018, 03:20:24 AM
If I were you, I'd check ebay for some good used originals.

Are you looking for the Arms themselves (Just the arms), or just the Blade holders (which hold the rubber wipers), or the whole thing?? Please specify.  '66 only had one specific type of arms and blade holders whereas '64.5-'65 had like two different types used.

:o)

Tony K.

Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 20, 2018, 03:51:01 AM
If I were you, I'd check ebay for some good used originals.

Are you looking for the Arms themselves (Just the arms), or just the Blade holders (which hold the rubber wipers), or the whole thing?? Please specify.  '66 only had one specific type of arms and blade holders whereas '64.5-'65 had like two different types used.

:o)

Tony K.
You are mis informed . 66 had two types of satin blade holders. A early style the looked like the polished stainless 65 holder only satin and the later 66 style used also on 67 and 68.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: edwardgt350 on January 20, 2018, 11:20:28 AM
looking for arms only. not blade holders.
also, straight or flanged caps?
mid year 66. (april)
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: NEFaurora on January 20, 2018, 01:45:21 PM

"A early style that looked like the polished stainless 65 holder only satin"

Geez Bob..

Never seen one of those!

Any pics?
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 20, 2018, 05:05:37 PM
looking for arms only. not blade holders.
also, straight or flanged caps?
mid year 66. (april)
The satin 66-mid 68 Mustang arms only came with the flanged caps.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: rrenz on January 20, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
Ive beat this horse to death. My original arms were in decent shape shape however the chromed pot metal ends are a bit tarnished. They were rather shiny so I figured they had just dulled out over the years so I replaced them with chrome arms. Come to find out they were satin that had just shined up over they years. I ordered a set of reproduction satin arms and installed them. They were on the car for about 5 minutes before coming right back off. I put the chrome 65 arms back on until I can find a better solution for the satin arms. The reproduction arms look very cheap and not right. I'm hoping someday ill find someone who can restore my original arms. :-\
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: NEFaurora on January 20, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Bob and I were referring to the Wiper Holders being like a Smooth '65 Wiper Holder...Only Satin..

We were NOT referring to the actual Wiper arms themselves... though thanks for the pic..

Jeff and Bob,

I see a picture referral guide coming in the near future....would be pretty simple to do...just throw up pics of each of the types..

:o)

Tony K.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: J_Speegle on January 20, 2018, 10:50:21 PM
Wiper condition today after 50 years has allot to do with what we we and find on these cars. Left alone many can show the affects of the elements on the finish while cleaning and polishing can create differences in the other direction

Here are some examples from all the same time period at San Jose in 66 (6R130000-about 136000)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118213902.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214255.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214235.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214137.jpeg)



And from later in the year

6R163xxx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214435.jpeg)

6R178xxx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214533.jpeg)

6R186xxx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214721.jpeg)

6R196xxx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214751.jpeg)

6R2042xx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-200118214817.jpeg)


Personally for the vast majority of the production year (later period of the two) I would focus to find something that looks like the example 6R196xxx above. Happens to belong to a car I've know since the 80's very nice unrestored car that spent most if its life (after the initial years) stored inside under covers but not polished and detailed.  Don't think its ever been buffed.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 21, 2018, 02:28:00 AM
"A early style that looked like the polished stainless 65 holder only satin"

Geez Bob..

Never seen one of those!

Any pics?
Here are some pics of the different holders
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 21, 2018, 02:36:43 AM
Ive beat this horse to death. My original arms were in decent shape shape however the chromed pot metal ends are a bit tarnished. They were rather shiny so I figured they had just dulled out over the years so I replaced them with chrome arms. Come to find out they were satin that had just shined up over they years. I ordered a set of reproduction satin arms and installed them. They were on the car for about 5 minutes before coming right back off. I put the chrome 65 arms back on until I can find a better solution for the satin arms. The reproduction arms look very cheap and not right. I'm hoping someday ill find someone who can restore my original arms. :-\
The originals may be worth restoring 50 years in the future when there is no alternative and then it will be prohibitively expensive unless money is no object. There is a lot of labor to disassemble the arm ,take the diecast hub flange off ,repair the pits , re satin chrome plate the finish (special plating) and reassemble. There are still many out there in good condition to find. I have a few excellent pairs to sell in case you cant find any . Remember millions of Mustangs (66-mid 68 ) used them. That means a lot are still out there. The trick is knowing where to look.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: J_Speegle on January 21, 2018, 10:49:14 PM
Thought I would add a few pictures of a service replacement/NOS to show finishes that had not been exposed to the elements or owners over time.  Every time I rotated it slightly for the pictures the arm and base looked closer or further from looking the same. All about the angles :) Yes all the same arm


WA-1
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181412.jpeg)

WA-2
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181358.jpeg)

WA-3
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181343.jpeg)

WA-4
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181329.jpeg)

WA-5
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181314.jpeg)

WA-6
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181256.jpeg)
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2018, 12:19:00 AM
Thought I would add a few pictures of a service replacement/NOS to show finishes that had not been exposed to the elements or owners over time.  Every time I rotated it slightly for the pictures the arm and base looked closer or further from looking the same. All about the angles :) Yes all the same arm




WA-2
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-210118214539.jpeg)

WA-3
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-210118214525.jpeg)

WA-4
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-210118214511.jpeg)

WA-5
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-210118214458.jpeg)
The pictures WA 2-5 show the mid 68-70 style wiper arm. The clip on the bottom is curved .The assemblyline 65-mid 68 arm is straight. It is a detail that stands out when you are looking for it. You indicated that they were service parts which are typically later. If you compare the pictures to the other ones Jeff posted you will see the flat clip compared to the curved clip in WA 2-5
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: J_Speegle on January 22, 2018, 12:25:54 AM
The pictures WA 2-5 show the mid 68-70 style wiper arm. The clip on the bottom is curved .The assemblyline 65-mid 68 arm is straight. It is a detail that stands out when you are looking for it. You indicated that they were service parts which are typically later. If you compare the pictures to the other ones Jeff posted you will see the flat clip compared to the curved clip in WA 2-5

Sure one of us can dig out a flat style and post it to show the earlier style for comparison. Didn't have the time today  since those are all put away in round tubes
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2018, 12:35:57 AM
You have to be careful when searching for or cleaning the satin wiper arms. The satin is easily damaged and removed if rubbed on too hard or if you use a too abrasive of cleaner. Once the satin looks shiny then they are ruined for use on a concours 66-mid 68 car. You can't polish them successfully to use on a 65 because the diecast hub is a satin chrome and different and less shinny then regular chrome like on the 65 arms. It will not polish up as brilliant. The point being they are ruined for concours use regardless of if for 66-mid 68 or 65.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 22, 2018, 12:39:59 AM
Sure one of us can dig out a flat style and post it to show the earlier style for comparison. Didn't have the time today  since those are all put away in round tubes
Until then the arms in your reply #8 are the earlier 65-mid 68 flat clip style and the ones in reply #11 are the mid 68-up curved clip style.
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: J_Speegle on January 22, 2018, 07:18:47 PM
Until then the arms in your reply #8 are the earlier 65-mid 68 flat clip style and the ones in reply #11 are the mid 68-up curved clip style.

To illustrate that difference.

Rear plate with flat interlocking clip/tab

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181439.jpeg)


Rear plate with curved interlocking clip/tab

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-220118181427.jpeg)
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: Bossbill on January 22, 2018, 08:09:08 PM
One of the benefits of buying a parts car is finding stock, fairly decent wiper arms just laying in a pile of parts. The parts hoard looked a bit like Jeff's "Identify these parts" post.

Now that I've seen this detail I won't be able to un-see it!

Here is a pic of the underside of that flat plate arm:

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/4249-220118190619.jpeg)
Title: Re: source for 66 satin wiper arms
Post by: rrenz on January 23, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
The originals may be worth restoring 50 years in the future when there is no alternative and then it will be prohibitively expensive unless money is no object. There is a lot of labor to disassemble the arm ,take the diecast hub flange off ,repair the pits , re satin chrome plate the finish (special plating) and reassemble. There are still many out there in good condition to find. I have a few excellent pairs to sell in case you cant find any . Remember millions of Mustangs (66-mid 68 ) used them. That means a lot are still out there. The trick is knowing where to look.

Thanks for the heads up. I may contact you on some wiper arms before the upcoming show season.