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Title: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: G Wood on December 11, 2009, 10:58:10 AM

What is the best way to create the phosphate and oil process at home?

Thanks

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: CharlesTurner on December 11, 2009, 12:11:26 PM

In the August section of the K convertible blog, you will find some information on phosphate/oil.  I guess Jeff and/or I (or someone else!) need to put together a little tech article on how to do this.  It's actually very easy.

http://65kresto.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: G Wood on December 11, 2009, 10:46:44 PM

Charles - what type of oil is used?

Thanks for your help.

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: CharlesTurner on December 11, 2009, 11:09:53 PM

Quote from: G Wood on December 11, 2009, 10:46:44 PM

Charles - what type of oil is used?

Thanks for your help.

I use regular motor oil, new, not used.

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: C5ZZKGT on December 13, 2009, 09:48:28 AM

I have heard that you need to have a special chemical license to posses and handle the phosphate part???

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: buckeyeresto on December 13, 2009, 04:35:11 PM

Quote from: C5ZZKGT on December 13, 2009, 09:48:28 AM

I have heard that you need to have a special chemical license to posses and handle the phosphate part???

Yes as a shop owner and as a plating facility you have to have the epa requirements met to purchase Manganese phosephate or Zinc phosephate, in their raw and pure form, they are both Heavy Metals and you need proper training to handle them correctly... phosephate burns aren't pretty... they hurt like hell another solution is to parkerize and the zinc, or manganses contant isn't that high as with true phosephate

Title: Re: Phosphate and Oil
Post by: J_Speegle on December 13, 2009, 08:42:13 PM

Quote from: C5ZZKGT on December 13, 2009, 09:48:28 AM

I have heard that you need to have a special chemical license to posses and handle the phosphate part???

I asked about this years ago to the guy I bought my product from at the time - was able (like now) to send it through the postal system. When asked he comment was that it was not a hazardous material until it was used - not in the form that it was being sold.

Lets hope it stays that way since some of the other coatings have become unavailable due to regulations