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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: 67gtasanjose on December 15, 2014, 11:42:09 AM
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I've had my eye on a 55amp alternator on eBay for a while, Priced at $220 (top 3 images). Maybe not the best of Concours condition available but looks like a good job.
Thoughts please on this example.
I ALSO recently spotted a $69 version (bottom 2 images) of a very similar job. Thoughts on the $69 version too please.
I am looking to present my finished project as an example of an Occasionally Driven, yet trailered beyond about 75 miles (anything an hour or more away). My scope is not primarily planning on MCA Judged shows only at this time but very likely later on I would move towards those events as well. (as transportation arrangements eventually allow ~Read as I do not have a good rig and trailer yet)
Thoughts on correctness for initial assembly using either example provided, thoughts on better ideas that might help keep costs minimum considering my scope of staying local.
NOTED DIFFERENCES: The $69 one is media blasted with what looks to be a gold painted pulley/fan, the $220 one is tumbler cleaned and called out in the listing as "anodized" pulley/fan.
Richard
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I would be best to show the same angles for both examples so a comparison could be made but with limited availability to the example I can understand the variation. The finish on the pulley and fan does not appear to be paint on the 69.00 one but the correct zinc dichromate gold finish although the parts were fairly rough when plated. In general the lower price one is looks comparable in details but lower quality. Anodizing is not the correct description of the appropriate finish. So far the 69.00 alt looks like a good compromise if dollars are a issue vs.the best look.
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Bob, Thanks for the input. I went ahead and ordered one. I believe the images provided in the listing are a "canned image" and not necessarily of the one actually being shipped. Actual product may vary...we'll see when it arrives. I might also upload images of the actual item if anyones cares to see "What you really get for $69" (+$12 shipping = $81)
Richard
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Where did you find one on E-Bay for $69.00 I have looked and can't find one that cheap. Can you tell me where you got one from?
I"m looking for one for my 68 GT500.
THANKS
GARY
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Here is a list of all the seller's items on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/a1truck/m.html?item=151508716730&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
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Thanks,
I see that he relisted them at $95.00 and a buy it now at $125.00
So your lucky you got yours at $69.00
Gary
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:o
;D
every once in a while a get a good lick in :D
The BIN price was either $115 or $125, I cannot remember. I won it in the auction with $69 starting bid and BIN. Looks like he didn't like the starting bid anymore or he is a Concours Mustang member and is reading this.
I don't think there is a cost effective way to rebuild yours, I see you made another thread about building. Cleaning, plating the pulley and fan, then putting bearings and brushes in it would cost you well above the now price of $95+ shipping. Just wait out the auction...if it goes higher, wait out another one.
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Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it.
Let me know how you like your when it come in.
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It came in today, Not bad, but Concours people or MCA Judges might feel differently ::) ;)
Ink mark is off, closer to the larger mounting hole from "canned images" of the listing.
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It hard to tell for sure in the pics but the case looks painted or cleared.
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It hard to tell for sure in the pics but the case looks painted or cleared.
Listing claims as not painted & also I "scratch tested" at the back side of the large mounting boss, where it would butt into the spacer, no signs of paint or clearcoat. It looks less "shiney" in person, most of the shine is light reflection from the flash. Picture is taken with a Samsung phone.
ALSO: I noticed the pulley came with a C9AF-10-352-B engineering/part number :P I'll probably look into getting that corrected.
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What would the CORRECT pulley's engineering number be on a '67, single pulley, non-K?
Richard
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Thanks for posting the pics Richard,
I won an auction for one for my 68 GT500 and I am getting one for one of my 69 428CJ cars.
I'll see what pulley comes on mind, I might trade you if I get one you need, I dont remember ever seeing part numbers on pulleys before, I guess most out there are after market.
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Thanks for posting the pics Richard,
I won an auction for one for my 68 GT500 and I am getting one for one of my 69 428CJ cars.
I'll see what pulley comes on mind, I might trade you if I get one you need, I dont remember ever seeing part numbers on pulleys before, I guess most out there are after market.
I have been in contact with the seller and he (John) is very cooperative. He has offered me the C5 pulley. Interesting note and something I found out more on at deadnutson.com last night, the rear housings differ also. see images here: http://www.deadnutson.com/albums/album_image/7071446/5278642.htm
Using Jack's identification chart for identifying, neither example in my original post would then be correct
My build date of the 67 I am working on is 11/02/66 so the first image, without the teardrop in the center of the housing would be "correct" No ??? (I am asking this as a QUESTION) The housing that came on mine has the teardrop and AUTOLITE casting, so correct for 6/68 and newer, correct?
Well, that would explain the big difference in pricing I think...but I imagine, had I requested a build to suit my needs in the first place, this vendor would have certainly done the best they could with inventory on hand.
Richard
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It is pretty common for most builders to mix and match parts, that is why I usually send my originals in to a restorer like Dead Nuts On. They make it their business to make sure it is correct. Last auto parts store one that I bought did not work for a month.
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It is pretty common for most builders to mix and match parts, that is why I usually send my originals in to a restorer like Dead Nuts On. They make it their business to make sure it is correct. Last auto parts store one that I bought did not work for a month.
A VERY good point and thanks for pointing that out Marty. Dead Nuts On is exactly what their name implies. And that is basically where this topic originated. I already understood this but unfortunately, three things prevented me from going there first. 1.) I have no original case(s) at this time 2.) They are limited on original case inventory and are in the process of actually reproducing the cases now to fill those gaps. 3.) Financially speaking, it is much more than I wished to spend at this juncture, given the scope of my intended show clasification.(as I pointed out earlier)
Undoubtedly, Dead Nuts On are the best in the market today. On the website, they claim to, or will take, orders on any type and as parts are found or created, will fill the need...but still a bit rich for my blood (and needs) right now.
Richard
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Richard,
I recieved my alternator, it has the right rear case for my car. The pulley has no numbers on it.
My alternator did come with one of the studs bent on the rear and when I straighten it, it broke. So I'll have to take the case apart anyway. Other than that it looks good, I wish he would stamp them it two places, when mounted, you cant see the stamp.
I have another one coming for my 69CJ, we will see how it comes in.
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Richard,
I recieved my alternator, it has the right rear case for my car. The pulley has no numbers on it.
My alternator did come with one of the studs bent on the rear and when I straighten it, it broke. So I'll have to take the case apart anyway. Other than that it looks good, I wish he would stamp them it two places, when mounted, you cant see the stamp.
I have another one coming for my 69CJ, we will see how it comes in.
OK, thanks :) Mine was packed pretty good, makes me wonder if the damaged stud happened before shipping. Hopefully your other will be good right out of the box. In looking at the stamping, and checking other sites such as Deadnutson, I believe the stamping is supposed to be hidden on downwards hanging alternators. Maybe a JUDGE will chime in about this.
Richard
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I got my other alternator in today. It has the correct back and stamp on it, but the pulley has a dent in it.
I will tell John about it and maybe get a new one.
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OK, thanks :) Mine was packed pretty good, makes me wonder if the damaged stud happened before shipping. Hopefully your other will be good right out of the box. In looking at the stamping, and checking other sites such as Deadnutson, I believe the stamping is supposed to be hidden on downwards hanging alternators. Maybe a JUDGE will chime in about this.
Richard
Yes, typically the stamp on a assemblyline alt is on the bottom side of the case as it is mounted.
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Thanks Bob, Well it looks like I got something right. LOL.
John sent me an e-mail and he said he will send me out another pulley.
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I got my other alternator in today. It has the correct back and stamp on it, but the pulley has a dent in it.
I will tell John about it and maybe get a new one.
I just switched off the C9 pulley today, John sent me the C5-L pulley to replace it. Strange that your USPS driver must be brutal, mine arrived well packed and undamaged.
Jeeze, I could just send you that one directly, ask John what he thinks if I do. I was going to send it back to him anyways to level the playing field. I can send it out Monday if he's OK with that, then just PM me your address.
Richard
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Richard,
It was a double pulley. The package/box looked to be OK. I think it was danaged before it was packed.
But thanks for the offer. I'll be working on my 69 428CJ after my 68 GT500 is done.