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Title: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: kcodecoupe on January 02, 2015, 02:22:20 PM
Did 70  frt disc brake caliper mounting bolts have lock washers or just the safety wire to secure them to the spindle. or both.
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 02, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
For the bolts that hold the caliper mounting bracket to the spindle there both lock washers and the safety wire.  It would be two bolts per spindle. 
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: jwc66k on January 02, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
For the bolts that hold the caliper mounting bracket to the spindle there both lock washers and the safety wire.  It would be two bolts per spindle.
I've read that a couple of times, did you mean there are aka there're?
Sorry, English is a first language but does have its quirks.
Jim
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on January 02, 2015, 05:47:06 PM
I've read that a couple of times, did you mean there are aka there're?
Sorry, English is a first language but does have its quirks.
Jim

Both lock washers and safety wire were used on caliper mount to spindle bolts

Think it was just a typo
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: jwc66k on January 02, 2015, 05:57:15 PM
Looking for a clarification. If you can make a mistake and do it wrong, I can make a mistake and do it right - if I knew what you were doing.  ;)
Jim
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper mounting bolts
Post by: Brian Conway on January 02, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
FWIW The same lock washer and safety wire are used on my 69.  Brian
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on January 02, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
69 discussion but it applies

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=200.msg929#msg929 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=200.msg929#msg929)
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 02, 2015, 10:19:13 PM
Yes...sorry.  I have been drinking too much eggnog this holiday season.  There is lock washers and safety wire.  Usually I see the safety wire missing if the car was taken apart in the past.
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper mounting bolts
Post by: jwc66k on January 03, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Yes...sorry.  I have been drinking too much eggnog this holiday season.  There is lock washers and safety wire.  Usually I see the safety wire missing if the car was taken apart in the past.
I had that situation on a car, the shop didn't have safety wire or the tool available, so they just "did me a favor" and left it off. They are no longer in business. I wonder why?
Jim
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 03, 2015, 04:18:48 PM
Sounds like they did themselves a favor by not putting it back together correct.  I think the safety wire pliers are about $10 - they are not hard to find.  Used alot in the aircraft industry.
Title: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: rickmustang on November 26, 2019, 04:54:54 PM
This is an old post and the pics are no longer available. Can someone post how the safety wire is supposed to go on a '70 disc brake car. Also, what is best source for the wire? Thanks.
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on November 26, 2019, 05:07:12 PM
This is an old post and the pics are no longer available. Can someone post how the safety wire is supposed to go on a '70 disc brake car. Also, what is best source for the wire? Thanks.

Don't know that we ever posted pictures to the thread but will see if I have anything. BTW thanks for posting the request here rather than starting a whole new thread :)

On the point of the safety - there may be (very likely) differences between plants and possibly even workers so just be prepared for that and also finding the right size wire and metal can be a challenge at times but there is at least one other thread that offered suggestions I use to buy it locally at Orchard Supply labeled Annealed Wire or Annealed Baling Wire. Almost bought an extra roll when they closed but just didn't need another.
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: jwc66k on November 26, 2019, 07:20:30 PM
- what is best source for the wire?
Amazon.
Jim
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: rickmustang on November 27, 2019, 04:03:48 PM
My car is San Jose build
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on November 27, 2019, 04:33:14 PM
My car is San Jose build

Sorry don't have any pictures currently from a 70 San Jose example hopefully someone else will have a picture
Title: Re: 70 front disc brake caliper Safety Wire
Post by: bgp429 on November 27, 2019, 08:11:44 PM
These are 70. They appear original. Don't have any history on them. If you want close ups let me know.
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on November 27, 2019, 08:33:12 PM
These are 70. They appear original. Don't have any history on them. If you want close ups let me know.

Interesting that the few ends of the winding that can be seen don't have "tails" as in other earlier years and I think I have of Dearborn.

Any idea of what plant yours may be from?
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: J_Speegle on November 27, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
For 70 Dearborn owners here are some examples I found in my picture collection.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-271119213900.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-271119213843.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-271119213828.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-271119213752.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-271119213646.jpeg)
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: bgp429 on November 27, 2019, 11:10:42 PM
Interesting that the few ends of the winding that can be seen don't have "tails" as in other earlier years and I think I have of Dearborn.

Any idea of what plant yours may be from?

No idea what plant they are from. Only thing I know is they are DOZA-C. Wire appears a little smaller than your pictures but does look like a wire tie tool was used.
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: cobrajet_carl on November 28, 2019, 12:38:17 PM
From a 70 that had 69 control arms
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: rickmustang on December 02, 2019, 10:47:52 AM
Anyone know the gauge or thickness of the wire? Thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: jwc66k on December 02, 2019, 01:58:26 PM
Anyone know the gauge or thickness of the wire? Thanks for the pics!
That info "may" be in the service manual.
Jim
Title: Re: 70 Front Disc Brake Caliper Safety Wire
Post by: ExportMach on December 02, 2019, 04:29:33 PM
I would feel comfortable using annealed rebar tire wire. Ive had a roll in my tool box for 20 years and still haven't used it all. It comes in handy for 1001 things.