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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 - 70 Shelby => Topic started by: Bob Zink on January 04, 2015, 03:58:57 PM

Title: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: Bob Zink on January 04, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Does anyone know if this single eye hook connection to the tranny tunnel is original for an early convertible?  I have also seen 2 separate belts with 2 eye hooks as well. 

The date of 52 68 aligns with the date of 51 68 on the label of my Hamill retractor belt label. I am looking for confirmation that some early convertibles came with a single eye hook connection to the tranny tunnel for the front lap belts. 

Thanks. 

Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: TLea on January 07, 2015, 06:47:23 AM
Bob are you asking if some cars came with only one female buckle in front?
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: Bob Zink on January 07, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
I believe there were 2 female buckles in the front on each side.  One was a 67 style buckle for the shoulder harness.  The other was a standard black plastic buckle for the lap belt (early convertible). 

My question is was the webbing for these 2 buckles sewn together just before they attach to the tranny tunnel on early convertibles?  My early convertible is configured this way - 2 belts sewn together so there is only 1 connector to the tranny tunnel. 

I have been told that no 69 Shelby convertibles came this way from the factory.  However, my date codes on my label indicates it may be original. 
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: J_Speegle on January 07, 2015, 07:20:05 PM
Did check but could not find any good pictures or TSB articles related to the inner front seat belt number of anchor plates :(
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: TLea on January 09, 2015, 08:40:44 AM
I see what you mean. I cant say I've ever seen that before. Let me ask Stewart if he's ever seen it
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: specialed on January 09, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
where the original snake decals on both types of buckles push button? compare the sewn together pattern to that of a fastback that had both same type plastic buckles sewm together from factory in 69.
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: Bob Zink on January 09, 2015, 10:45:10 AM
I am planning to see a twin of my car in the next few weeks - vin #99.  My car is #100.  I am very curious how his front seat belts are configured on #99. 

Here is a photo of the button and my retractor label.  The date codes on the front belt is within 1 week of my retractor label date code. 

Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: Bob Zink on January 17, 2015, 03:26:25 PM
I just got back from photographing another 69 shelby convertible vin #99.  It also has only a single eye hook front lap belt connection to the tranny tunnel.  Very interesting.   I assume this means not all 69 shelbys came with 2 separate front lap belts. 
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: TLea on January 17, 2015, 06:08:12 PM
No I think you need 3 more examples till we see a pattern  ;D
Good work, something new I learned. Now lets see if we can figure out when it started/stopped
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: Bob Zink on January 17, 2015, 06:36:16 PM
I wonder if it was a convertible-only difference or just an early vs. late seat belt difference?  I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the buckles in the console insert do not appear to be the 67 style buckles on #99.  I should have pulled one out and got a better photo of it and also the insert on the shoulder harness to see what style it was.  I am invited back so I can check next time.  The guy had some amazing original cars in his collection.

When I spoke to Stuart about this 2 years ago, he didn't think any came this way. 
Title: Re: Early 69 Shelby Convertible Question
Post by: specialed on January 18, 2015, 02:13:39 AM
Interesting & that would be a early convertible thing & with 2 different  buckles sewn together very odd now to figure out which & how many were done that way at a o smith?