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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: Brian Conway on August 16, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
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Asking for some tips on how to ID an original 65 rally pac. It seems the assembly line version differs from the over the counter FORD service version and, of course there s always the after market ? This one is missing the security screws and the correct crinkle paint on the body and the eyebrows. Are there other signs; the gauge face, wiring or the body casting ? Thanks, Brian
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The rally pac looks to be a correct/original Ford unit that was sold over the counter. It needs proper detailing but the wires seem to be intact. The one that I have has Mustang on the face.
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Thank you Richard. So is your, mustang on the tac face, an assembly line part ? Brian
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Brian, you have an 8K tach.. Typically used on "K" cars. The image you show also has increments of 10 on the face while others are sometimes marked in increments of 5. I think that while yours says "FORD" on the face at least some will have "MUSTANG" inscribed.
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Thank you Richard. So is your, mustang on the tac face, an assembly line part ? Brian
Yes Brain my rally pac says Mustang on the face and is a 6 K rally pac.
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Hi Brian,
You'll have to partially disassemble the Rally Pac to determine it's originality. One thing of note is the that Rally Pac appears to be a period correct over-the-counter accessory (since the script in the tach reads "Ford" as opposed to Mustang in a factory Rally Pac. In addition, since your tach goes to 8K it is meant for a K-Code engine. The chrome lens hoods are also incorrect (those should be black as well).
Disassemble the Rally Pac
Unscrew the 3 large black Phillips screws at the back of the housing to release the tach and the clock from the housing. The original tach's are made by Faira and a have a stamping on the back of the pod that sit inside the black Rally Pac housing. They are also stamped 8 CYL or 6 CYL based on the application they were designed for. They are also a 3 wire design (red and black for the tach) and a blue with red stripe for the light. The light used is a #1895 globe shaped bulb.
In order to see if the clock is original you need to disassemble it even further and remove the screws that hold the lens and lens cover in place. If it has been modified (to a quartz movement) then it may have been original but the movement was changed. If it's original you will see the mechanical movement of the clock. It is my understand that Ford used two different clock mechanisms in the Rally Pac. Mine is a Borg clock, denoted by a large B stamped on the back of the housing. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ron
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Hey Brian, I just restored my Rally Pac not too long ago. Here is a link to my post regarding such and there are some pics of when i disassembled it showing the original stampings. Hope this helps.
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=10337.msg61455#msg61455
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Thank you for the information and instructions. With the tac removed from the housing several things are obvious. Most notably no 'FAIRA' stamp to be seen. Interesting date and maybe some of you guys can make some sense of the other less clear stampings ?. Thanks, Brian
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Yes, that discussion goes a long ways in answering my questions. Thank you. Brian
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Thank you for the information and instructions. With the tac removed from the housing several things are obvious. Most notably no 'FAIRA' stamp to be seen. Interesting date and maybe some of you guys can make some sense of the other less clear stampings ?. Thanks, Brian
Hi Brian,
The "Faira" is smudged. You can see the "F" on the back of your tach. See my attached example with the placement of the "Faira" stamping. This tach looks to be original (period correct NOS).
Regards,
Ron
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Yeah, it looks "aged" to be original. I note the rubber cracks, stamping, etc.. I would bet its legit.