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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: tvor on September 24, 2015, 12:52:12 AM
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hi all,
Could someone provide a picture of where this bracket mounts to and if the bracket holds both lines or a bracket per each line.
Thank you so much!
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Are you asking about the one that holds the lines to the engine grounding post behind the alternator?
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I don't know :-[. I can't remember what went there. It would be a bracket to hold the tranny lines somewhere between the tranny and the radiator. I've scoured the manual and pics on the internet, but I have yet to get a glimpse of this elusive bracket.
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this one?? mounts as jeff stated.
http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/Search.aspx?k=transmission%20line%20bracket
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Is it the same for 67?
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Some pages from the '75 MPC illustration section that may help. I have no information on how closely this matches what was actually done on the assembly line.
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Picture of one that I have. NOT FOR SALE Just an OE example. Brian
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The Ford base part number is 7C008 which in the 75 Ford Car Parts says - "improvise". I've ordered a couple from NPD under their stock number 7C008-1. The one I have (still in the bag) was made by Shafer's Classic Reproductions Inc https://www.shafersclassic.com/ The bracket works which is what I wanted. How accurate remains to be seen.
Jim
My NPD version looks close to Brian's pictures, but is missing the plastic/rubber insulation around the hook.
Upon further review (tis the season), I found the original I took off my "K" Fastback AT and it is shaped like the reproduction, but without the insulation. I've use black "Plasti Dip" (Home Depot) to build up the insulation on the bracket (and wiring clips too).
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Found this at:
http://www.larrystbird.com/product/transmission-cooling-line-clip-5557/ (http://www.larrystbird.com/product/transmission-cooling-line-clip-5557/)
Can't tell if it's the same size as Brian's. Per the 1969 Ford utiity parts catalog, it has the same shape as a 370717-S100.
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Don't recall ever seeing an original what was rubber coated. Wonder if that is from a different application
Looking through my pictures of original car found
65's - no rubber coating
5F08C7275xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-240915204209.jpeg)
5R09C150899
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-240915204336.jpeg)
Late 66 with rubber coating
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-240915204507.jpeg)
Minimum sampling at the moment but thought I should share.
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Found this at:
http://www.larrystbird.com/product/transmission-cooling-line-clip-5557/ (http://www.larrystbird.com/product/transmission-cooling-line-clip-5557/)
Can't tell if it's the same size as Brian's. Per the 1969 Ford utiity parts catalog, it has the same shape as a 370717-S100.
The one shown in Larry's T-Bird catalog appears to have a smaller mounting hole.
(I find no application for 370717-S100 on 64 to 73 Mustangs.)
Jim
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The one shown in Larry's T-Bird catalog appears to have a smaller mounting hole.
(I find no application for 370717-S100 on 64 to 73 Mustangs.)
Jim
Agreed, I could not find a Mustang application listed. The 370717-S100 could be used as a functional solution until a more suitable reproduction is available. The 60-64 MPC lists a 7/16-14 mounting bolt. If the hole in the bracket from Larry's is too small, it could be enlarged slightly. It would be nice to see the repro side-by-side with an original.
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this one?? mounts as jeff stated.
http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/Search.aspx?k=transmission%20line%20bracket
I think so, but I don't know. I have that in my 'cart' now (along with a bunch of other bits), but I want to make sure that's what I need. I can't recall what was there originally or where it was mounted :(
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I think so, but I don't know. I have that in my 'cart' now (along with a bunch of other bits), but I want to make sure that's what I need. I can't recall what was there originally or where it was mounted :(
Is that the one that mounts to one of the upper passenger side bellhousing bolts? There is a clip there that looks very similar to what you posted; it's intended to keep the line that runs up to the back of the intake in place.
This may be an entirely different application than what we've talked about so far. I'm not sure if the bellhousing clip is used elsewhere to hold the lines.
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no. this one mounts at the grounding bolt below the alternator.
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Thanks everyone, you all have been very helpful! All the pics are also appreciated. I'll order the bracket as planned and now I know where the darned thing goes!
Thank you!
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no. this one mounts at the grounding bolt below the alternator.
Thanks, you beat me to it. Disregard my earlier post.
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The '75 MPC does have a reference to the 370717-S clip after all. It's in section A71, page 2, hardware for the cooling lines. This doesn't necessarily reflect what was used at assembly.
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A picture of 370717-S100, from Osborn "Ford Standard and Utility Parts Catalog, January 1965", pg 33.
There are a lot of dimensions missing. The 17/32 inch hole is 0.531 inch. It looks like it will work, but I find no reference in the Assembly Manuals.
Jim
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REVISED
I have started a separate thread with photos of a clip similar to the one shown in Jeff's second photo, 5R09C150899.
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12145 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12145)
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Slightly off-topic, since it's a big block, here is where the clip was located: in the red oval, bolted to the block just above the pan rail. Almost impossible to make out as it was entombed in grease. The blue circle shows the small spring clip that was holding the lines together. I can edit this post or duplicate it in the 67-68 category if this is too far off track.
Why don't you remove and repost since its different and we're not even sure if that full size application is the same as 67 Mustangs ;)
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Don't recall ever seeing an original what was rubber coated. Wonder if that is from a different application
Late 66 with rubber coating
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-240915204507.jpeg)
Minimum sampling at the moment but thought I should share.
What's more interesting is the threaded retainer - it's a 7/16-14 stud with a center hex drive, and the battery ground wire is on the outside of the center hex fastened with a 7/16-14 jam nut. This arrangement make more sense than the battery ground at the block.
Think assembly line for a minute: a 289 block set up for an AT; the cooling line clip is attached to the block with the stud; further down the assembly line the AT is bolted to the engine; the two clipped together cooling lines "may" be installed at this time to the clip by sliding in; further down the alternator is installed and it's ground plus the battery ground attached to the outer threaded section. This arrangement would make is easier for service replacement of alternators and/or batteries. A different stud was used on I-6 engines, 3/8-16 stud section to the block, 7/6-14 stud section for the battery ground. Internal toothed washers were in there somewhere.
Jim
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Is this clip/bracket also correct for a late 66 200cid..? I see that all are referred to V8 models.
Josep
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Is this clip/bracket also correct for a late 66 200cid..? I see that all are referred to V8 models.
Yes
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-260716204600-60411913.jpeg)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13678.new#new (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13678.new#new)
And the other small thin sheet metal retainers that held the lines together
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12291.new#new
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If you notice, One clip is "Ribbed" and another one is straight... Just a variation perhaps and an observation.
:o)
Tony K.
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I you notice, One clip is "Ribbed" and another one is straight... Just a variation perhaps and an observation.
Not sure of the source of the "straight" sided one. Haven't seen or found that style on a 66 will have to check the 65's and compare
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If you notice, One clip is "Ribbed" and another one is straight... Just a variation perhaps and an observation.
Tony K.
Tony,
Define "ribbed" if you would.
Is this clip/bracket also correct for a late 66 200cid..? I see that all are referred to V8 models.
It might be the same, however the V-8 threads used to attach the clip to the engine block are 7/6-14 and the I-6 threads are 3/8-16. The clip would wobble a bit.
Jim