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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: socalgt on October 18, 2015, 08:18:15 PM
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Were the ribbed tail light panels that were painted to match the body color painted with the same paint and finish(shine) as the body?
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They look to be, though I've never found/seen an original paint car with body color rear louvered panels other than the one white proto-type used in the early ads
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I've got a pair of originals that were from a lime gold car. Thin paint on the back, looks to be original. Gray primer under the green.
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Thanks....looking for a pair of originals for a '67 black fastback....appears that finding one is difficult and even more difficult to find all the original fasteners with it.
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AMK has the fasteners.
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I have two original sets.One set on my 67 coupe and one set on my 68 Fastback...I have always seen them body color but something tells me my fastback set had charcoal black on them..That is the way I have them...I do not have concours cars tho...Most of the originals I see or see pics of are body color but I have never seen a pic of them on a red,blue or black car.(other than repos)I have seen green on green,white on white but I remember a black set on a 67 Fastback that was yellow.
They have never been a easy thing to find..
Considering how many sets were made it may be a difficult answer to get
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm220/427Fastback/67%20Mustang%20Trans%20Am%20replica/041_zps0nrki60e.jpg) (http://s297.photobucket.com/user/427Fastback/media/67%20Mustang%20Trans%20Am%20replica/041_zps0nrki60e.jpg.html)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm220/427Fastback/1968%20Fastback/2004-010001.jpg) (http://s297.photobucket.com/user/427Fastback/media/1968%20Fastback/2004-010001.jpg.html)
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I have two original sets.One set on my 67 coupe and one set on my 68 Fastback...
Are either original to the cars? Noted on the Marti report?
Would guess the gray style one came with the 2 digit paint code on the door tag like others
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The one that is on a 68 can't be original. The option was only offered in 67.
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The one that is on a 68 can't be original. The option was only offered in 67.
Opps :o - good catch John :)
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They look to be, though I've never found/seen an original paint car with body color rear louvered panels other than the one white proto-type used in the early ads
I am restoring a 67 S code fastback that is Wimbledon White with the body color ribbed panels. I'll get some pics some time.
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No...neither set original to the cars..The coupe set came out of Nova Scotia about 8 years ago.They were black with polished fins and had been clear coated.The fastback set I pulled out of Miami in the mid 80's..
If its the pic of the white proto type Fastback that I have seen numerous times before you may look closely and see that the fastback actually has a coupe/conv set on it....
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If its the pic of the white proto type Fastback that I have seen numerous times before you may look closely and see that the fastback actually has a coupe/conv set on it....
Depends on which one - there is a prototype fastback that was eventually used in tests (it was crashed and totaled) that had the body color rear panel which was the fastback version
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/4/6-251015003258.jpeg)
Have to dig out the film strips to see if its the same or different from the preproduction sales model they used
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That one is certainly correct...I have pictures of a prototype/pre production fastback that has the coupe panel.I can dig out the books tomorrow.
I have never seen the above picture before..
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That one is certainly correct...I have pictures of a prototype/pre production fastback that has the coupe panel.
Here's a shot of a pre-production '67 Fastback with the Coupe/Convertible ribbed taillight panel.
Also note the missing quad exhaust tips, and incorrect wheel center caps as well...
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Being that I'm going to paint mine black to match the car....would I be better off preparing them without sandblasting them to avoid leaving the textured finish that might show under the paint.......I have glass beads that I think will leave them smooth to result in a smooth paint finish. I'll experiment on the back side.
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Would I be correct that the grey that it sounds like was one of the original colors applied at the factory was the same as the gray on the styled wheels?
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Would I be correct that the grey that it sounds like was one of the original colors applied at the factory was the same as the gray on the styled wheels?
Don't believe they are both the same color/paint code
Remember the gray was applied to the taillight panel (sheet metal behind ribbed panel) and to the end caps
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While, at least in my original 1967 or 1965-72 Master Parts Catalogs, I have no separate “Paint” Section, I do in my 1960-68 MPC. In the “Exterior Paint (Acrylic Enamel)” Section, is noted “Dark Gray Metallic, Code 5, Part Number AR60 1988 (Mustang tutone, lower back panel)". This color and code also shows up under "Exterior Paint - Acrylic Repair Lacquer".
What makes this interesting is that beginning in 1966, all Fords were painted with Acrylic Enamel (AE); yet the tutone Dark Gray Metallic is noted in the "Exterior Paint (Acrylic Enamel)” Section as “AR” (Acrylic Lacquer). It is my personal opinion that Ford, not wanting the tutone back panel to be "glossy" like the body paints, went to the Acrylic Lacquer, which in its unfinished, un-rubbed out, unbuffed state exhibited a "semi-gloss" or "semi-flat" appearance. I cannot think of another reason for this being done.
In order to get a better "idea" of what the Dark Gray Metallic noted looked like, I had my DuPont jobber mix up a pint. Of course they don't do Acrylic Lacquer anymore due to all of the Fed regulations, so using the Ford Code for the Acrylic Lacquer, they mixed it in Chroma Premier; to this I have to add a "flattner" in order to do away with the gloss look. A couple of years ago when a similar topic on VMF led to someone bringing up the color issue, a member replied that, to him, the SEM Dark Titanium Metallic, Part # 39263, looked very close to the original Ford Dark Gray Metallic, Code 5, AR60 1988. I obtained a spray can of the SEM, and painted two sample pieces in order to compare the colors. Not wanting to mix my high $ pint of mixed paint yet, I just brushed my sample right out of the can (no flattner), which I felt would be adequate for color comparison. As you can see by the attached pictures of the two samples, the SEM paint (at least to me) appears to have more black in it, and not as much metallic as the Ford Code mixed paint, which also appears to have more gray in it. Of course if you've decided to not use the tutone option, your grills will be the same as the color of your car, and you won't have to worry about the Dark Gray Metallic.
I have also attached a picture (which I believe originally came from Jeff) that shows what he meant about how the paint was done underneath the rear grills.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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Whoops ! Somehow this didn't get attached.
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If you really want acrylic lacquer, it's available from carpaintonline.com.
I haven't tried their paint yet, but in the near future I plan to get samples of charcoal poly for my interior and my special order exterior color to test.
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I believe when I remove the stock trim pieces from my tail lights there is a rubber gasket on the outside...does that remain in place when I install the new panels? I guess this will be obvious when I go to install them, but thought I'd check before I begin the installation.