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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: ruppstang on December 06, 2015, 11:59:21 PM

Title: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: ruppstang on December 06, 2015, 11:59:21 PM
I am working on a 67 200 ci with a 4spd. Where on the transmission would I find identification numbers? Would this 4sp work behind a 289ci? I intend to convert  the car to a 289 and was not sure if this transmission would work if I found a V8 bell housing. 
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: 67gtasanjose on December 07, 2015, 06:22:48 AM
I wish I could give you more than an "If memory serves" answer, but I believe the driveshaft differs on the inline 6 and the nput shaft is different too (fine splined clutch disc?) I might be mixing my thoughts with Falcon or other than a 67, so take this with a grain of salt. Not too many 200cid with 4 speed cars out there. Pretty sure the internal ratio is different in any case. None-the-less, I believe I was successful in the V-8 conversion using the inline 6 transmissions but the end result was "less than Concours".
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: GT500KR on December 07, 2015, 08:46:36 AM
You have a really unique car there, I would encourage you to leave it as it is. Too many 6cyl cars have been lost to conversions and scrapped. Personally, I enjoy seeing the ones that remain at shows. Important part of the Mustang story IMO.

Plus, gas won't be $1.75 a gallon for long.... ;)
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: WT8095 on December 07, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
I think it would be cool to keep the unique combination you have. If you want more power, check out http://classicinlines.com/ (http://classicinlines.com/). Easier to change back to concours if and when you decide to.
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: Richard P. on December 07, 2015, 09:33:12 AM
I am working on a 67 200 ci with a 4spd. Where on the transmission would I find identification numbers? Would this 4sp work behind a 289ci? I intend to convert  the car to a 289 and was not sure if this transmission would work if I found a V8 bell housing. 

Is your 4 spd. transmission the Dagenham?
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: J_Speegle on December 07, 2015, 05:00:22 PM
Would need to know what type of 4 speed it was.

Can't recall if I've ever seen a 67 4 speed 6 cylinder or even hearing of someone claiming to have one. More common (though still rare) in 65-66
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: WT8095 on December 07, 2015, 06:59:18 PM
The In Search of Mustangs database (http://www.isomustangs.org (http://www.isomustangs.org)) has the following data:

1967 Mustangs: 13,195
1967 + 200 I-6: 4,350
1967 + 4-speed: 149
1967 + 200 I-6 + 4-speed: 0

Yours is therefore 1 of 0!  :o  ::)

This would definitely be one to run past Kevin Marti. ISOM only has user contributions, not the entire set of production data.
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: midlife on December 07, 2015, 09:24:32 PM
Mustang By The Numbers (Marti) lists no 4 speed I6's in 1967, although 11 of the 472,207 total Mustangs had a blank transmission tag that were I6's.  20 C codes also had blank transmissions.
Title: Re: 67 200 ci with 4spd
Post by: ruppstang on December 07, 2015, 11:37:06 PM
Ok it is time I set the record strait on this one. I have old timers disease. Sometime  I can not see or think clearly. I bought this 67 T code coupe that had been in storage for 30 years because it was nearly rust free and had NOS parts included, plus it was reasonably priced. When I looked under the car it appeared to have a 4spd when I checked the tag I thought I saw 5 under transmission which is a 4spd. I looked through all of my Ford information and could not find how you could order a 4 spd with a 200 6cil.
To day I removed the door tag and put on my glassed and was embarrassed to a 3 in the transmission position instead of a 5, but that was the axel code. The transmissionand axel codes were shifted to the right and the 1 for a 3 spd manual was under the rivet. I pulled the engine and transmission yesterday so I could clean up and check the transmission for a tag or casting numbers. I thought someone may have put the Dagenham in the car. I found the tag and it read HEH CL it turns out it is out of a 66 Fairlane 390 GT So I guess there will be no problem with it holding up behind a 289. 
Lessons learned never trust that it is original even if it has been stored a long time and wear your eye glasses.
I like building these cars and thought I would use some of my parts that are not good enough for a concours car and make a fun driver to sell and fund my GT350 restoration