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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: ChrisV289 on February 21, 2016, 02:16:31 PM

Title: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 21, 2016, 02:16:31 PM
I can't tell if these are green or a teal color? A code fastback, power steering and AC. I can get the numbers off if needed.

Thanks ,

Chris
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on February 21, 2016, 08:26:50 PM
Chris - what's your VIN again?  You can leave the last two or three off.

Have some pictures but don't want to confuse earlier pictures of you car to comment on this picture you have posted :)
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 21, 2016, 08:30:02 PM
5R09A1523**
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on February 21, 2016, 08:52:52 PM
5R09A1523**

That is what I thought

Do you happen to know if they are -N springs?
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 21, 2016, 09:15:58 PM
I believe so but will double check
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 22, 2016, 12:09:59 AM
Can confirm the numbers are C4ZA 5556 N 282E4
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on February 22, 2016, 12:20:11 AM
Can confirm the numbers are C4ZA 5556 N 282E4

Chris thanks for making sure

Here is another -N from 65 rear spring with a larger paint mark sample. I would say a teal though some paperwork/document might refer to it as "green"

Hope this helps
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-210216221957.jpeg)
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 22, 2016, 12:22:46 AM
Thanks Jeff, once I get them apart and soak them in evaporust I will post the results.
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: mtinkham on February 22, 2016, 01:36:58 PM
Do we know if the vendor(s) used rattle cans for these types of paint marks, or would they have had a commercial paint gun set up for this marking?

In the overall scheme of life, this detail does not matter...just trying to complete a mental image!! ;D
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: jwc66k on February 22, 2016, 04:01:01 PM
One more time. The identifying paint color was applied by a worn out brush by a union worker who followed instructions and did not care what he did as long as his supervisor didn't say anything.
Jim
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on February 22, 2016, 04:46:53 PM
Do we know if the vendor(s) used rattle cans for these types of paint marks, or would they have had a commercial paint gun set up for this marking?

In the overall scheme of life, this detail does not matter...just trying to complete a mental image!! ;D

Agree I don't really care - IMHO our first job is to reproduce it faithfully.

The stripes were applied with brushes while the "dots" or "Daubs" in 65-66 appear to be sprayed applied pretty closely. Later years (where the dots were used) appear to be brush from the pictures and examples I've seen
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: mtinkham on February 23, 2016, 01:44:19 PM
One more time. The identifying paint color was applied by a worn out brush by a union worker who followed instructions and did not care what he did as long as his supervisor didn't say anything.
Jim

Jim, you and others are a wealth of knowledge and we all appreciate your time, your help, your guidance and advice, your attention to detail, your expertise, and your dedication - I know I do.  However, your "One more time..." comment is neither helpful nor considerate.  If my questions are mundane and repetitive, I apologize.  How ever, you don't have to answer them - I'm responsible for my ignorance....not you.
I'll bet those union workers had know idea that their work would be scrutinized for decades.
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: WT8095 on February 24, 2016, 08:03:30 PM
I'll bet those union workers had no idea that their work would be scrutinized for decades.

Or how little respect they would get for their hard work. I bet those old guys (and gals) get a smile on their face when they see their handiwork still on the road 50+ years later!
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 01, 2016, 09:39:28 PM
Would you say this is about the right shade the leaf springs should be? I soaked the 2 top leafs in evaporust for a day. Seen some restored that appeared lighter. 
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on April 01, 2016, 10:45:00 PM
Would you say this is about the right shade the leaf springs should be? I soaked the 2 top leafs in evaporust for a day. Seen some restored that appeared lighter.

Using the rusty metal, concrete and other things in the background to contrast I think your in the neighborhood. The darkness with vary depending on how old and used the oil it was dipped in to cool was. Will also darken as you add a protectant
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 01, 2016, 10:48:31 PM
Thanks Jeff, the rusty metal is actually the last leaf of the that leaf spring that I need to do.  Just need to get the front bushing out of it and figure something big enough to soak it in...Then on to the other leaf spring itself...
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on April 01, 2016, 10:53:06 PM
Thanks Jeff, the rusty metal is actually the last leaf of the that leaf spring that I need to do.  Just need to get the front bushing out of it and figure something big enough to soak it in...Then on to the other leaf spring itself...

Sure you'll remember - but for others - replace the paint marks if your going to before the protectant oil ;)
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: LoneStarPony on April 05, 2016, 09:57:16 AM
I found the Valspar 85201 Gloss Exotic Sea in a rattle can from Lowes to be about as close a match as I could find. I just sprayed some in a cup and did a dab with an old brush; let it run a bit just like the original. Did a few practice dabs first to get the right load in the brush...
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: Building 3 on April 10, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
To add to the data base, I put some Evaporust on my right rear leaf spring to see if there were any remnants of paint daubs. Before the treatment all you could see was rust. Now after 24 hours as the photo shows there are two teal daubs as there should be for a 289 C auto convertible.
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on April 10, 2016, 02:46:02 PM
To add to the data base, I put some Evaporust on my right rear leaf spring to see if there were any remnants of paint daubs. Before the treatment all you could see was rust. Now after 24 hours as the photo shows there are two teal daubs as there should be for a 289 C auto convertible.

Would help- if you can provide the engineering number from one of the springs. There are often allot of variations so in narrowing down a match for another owner the only sure fire way is matching the specific spring. Also the application can change during the year

Thnaks for posting another example
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: Building 3 on April 10, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
It is pretty pock-marked with corrosion, but here is what I can see:

First line:       5556   N

Second line:   27CE5
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: J_Speegle on April 10, 2016, 06:43:46 PM
It is pretty pock-marked with corrosion, but here is what I can see:

First line:       
But not really about which marks i should put on my 9 inch rear axle ?

Thanks just what was needed to finish out the "picture"
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: Building 3 on April 10, 2016, 08:11:13 PM
With a strong light and a better angle, here is the whole number for the records:

C4ZA

5556 N

270E5
Title: Re: Leaf Spring Paint Dab Color
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 29, 2016, 09:53:18 AM
One down after a month of trying to figure out ways of soaking it in evaporust.