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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 18, 2016, 06:23:20 AM

Title: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 18, 2016, 06:23:20 AM
Hi Guys,
I found these tags on my wife's Sept 64 SJ convertible. Ball joints are bolted in so the were replaced right?
Are the tags original?

Thanks,

Dan.
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 67gta289 on March 18, 2016, 06:33:41 AM
That is correct.  A pretty common wear item.
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 18, 2016, 12:32:16 PM
That is correct.  A pretty common wear item.
+1 . tags not assemblyline.
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: J_Speegle on March 18, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
Labels were commonly included in the replacement kits of a number of the big suppliers in the 70-80's
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 21, 2016, 08:10:43 AM
Anyone have pics or info on how these control arms should be restored?

From what I can tell from the originals the arm and shaft are satin black and bolts and large shaft end nuts are phosphate and oil. Nuts that mount inside engine bay are zinc.
Is this correct?
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: J_Speegle on March 23, 2016, 06:57:26 PM
Anyone have pics or info on how these control arms should be restored?

From what I can tell from the originals the arm and shaft are satin black and bolts and large shaft end nuts are phosphate and oil. Nuts that mount inside engine bay are zinc.
Is this correct?

The shaft and ends are dark heat treated steel. Doesn't mean much in the long runs since that end of the A arm will all get dipped in black paint before installing the arm
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 23, 2016, 07:09:14 PM
Thanks Jeff,
So basically top end of arm, including shaft and bolts are all semi gloss black and lower third of arm where ball joint attaches is natural?
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: J_Speegle on March 23, 2016, 07:20:27 PM
Thanks Jeff,
So basically top end of arm, including shaft and bolts are all semi gloss black and lower third of arm where ball joint attaches is natural?
Correct - about 2/3rd black - 1/3rd natural once everything is assembled
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 23, 2016, 07:26:23 PM
Awesome,
Thanks Jeff. ;)
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 23, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
Thanks Jeff,
So basically top end of arm, including shaft and bolts are all semi gloss black and lower third of arm where ball joint attaches is natural?
to add , they were dipped in paint using the ball joint end as a lifting point . I replicate that using a rectangle trash can filled with semigloss black paint and let hanging to dry. I seal the trash can lid to preserve the paint for next dipping session. You can't get as good of a paint line by taping off.
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: jwc66k on March 23, 2016, 08:53:32 PM
Here's a link to my method - http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=3704.msg20117#msg20117
Jim
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: 66RavenGTCoupe on March 24, 2016, 01:29:28 AM
Good link, Thanks.  8)

Are the ball joint ends treated or just left bare to rust?

Also just realised that the thread on the A arms where the large shaft nuts screw in are damaged to the point that the nuts just spin in the hole. They tighten up once the shaft is installed but restrict the shaft pivot somewhat. Do I have to get rid of these arms or can this be repaired?
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: J_Speegle on March 24, 2016, 05:24:02 PM
Are the ball joint ends treated or just left bare to rust?

For shipping and storage believe they were coated to reduce/eliminate rust. Don't often rust on a well cared for car.



o just realised that the thread on the A arms where the large shaft nuts screw in are damaged to the point that the nuts just spin in the hole. They tighten up once the shaft is installed but restrict the shaft pivot somewhat. Do I have to get rid of these arms or can this be repaired?

If the threads are stripped out on the arm its often easier to start with better ones than try and repair. Some drivers you may find tack weld the large end nuts to the A arm. Something done at alignment nuts to hide that they stripped out   ::)
Title: Re: 65 Upper Control Arm Tags
Post by: J_Speegle on July 13, 2016, 01:08:33 AM
Here is another example of ones used by some/one of the aftermarket ball joint makers in the past - sent to me by   drschones


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-130716000820.jpeg)