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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: kkupec02 on August 23, 2018, 10:27:44 AM
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I have a 1967 San Jose GTA C Code Coupe dated 5/23/67. The clock looks like an untouched original. But, rather than a yellow second hand and two red hour and minute hands, it has a yellow second hand, a red minute hand and a WHITE hour hand. Anyone know anything about a WHITE hour hand clock? It is not paint fade either on that hand. Thanks all.
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Sure!
The "white" one was in the sun longer.
I could be wrong (I have been before) but, pull it out! I wonder if you don't find signs it USED to be red too ;)
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I'll have to pull it out then. Thx
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I have never seen one fade to pure white. I would guess the paint may have come off or was never there. You will know more when you get it apart.
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Thanks. I agree that it looks pure white with no paint fade or peel. May be a factory mistake that I will have to take apart to determine. Waiting on Elite Marti report. May be something there?
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If the car was originally ordered with a clock, the Marti report will call out the clock, it is as simple as that. There won't be any "second hand" information :) There was only one factory clock available, C7ZZ-15000-A.
The only factory fading was on radios that had front and rear speakers. Ok enough with the jocularity. If the issue here was due to fading, it is odd that both hands did not fade in similar fashion.
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I have never seen one fade to pure white. I would guess the paint may have come off or was never there. You will know more when you get it apart.
I did not document the fading of any of the needles of my original examples but remember being surprised at how "white" some of them had faded...Of course, my car spent it's first 30 years out in the So. California sunshine so the amount of sun is certainly a huge factor. Under the center lens bezel, the sun doesn't get to that area of the needle as much. This is where I discovered my second hand was actually yellow and not white. Some red remained on the other hands though they were faded past pink.
If the car was originally ordered with a clock, the Marti report will call out the clock, it is as simple as that.
I believe you might discover that the clock was integral part of the Interior Decor Group, so you may not typically see it called out on the Marti if you have that upgrade.
... If the issue here was due to fading, it is odd that both hands did not fade in similar fashion.
Odd...Perhaps yes, that would be unusual. Impossible? Not sure. I suppose if the car sat in a sunny area a long time in one location with the one hand shield in the shade and the other in the sun...
As I mentioned, though I did not document the condition of my clock hands or other gage needles but I do know the fading was severe. For example, the red line on my speedometer (with trip meter) had faded completely to white, no sign of it being red at all. Also, the trip meter (though not "red") wheels were exposed so much to the sun that the (black) numerals were all falling off from bonding to the white wheels (best description I could come up with) though the odometer numerals were not at all affected by the sun.
The power of solar fading is REAL and unless you see how bad it is in areas such as the Mohave Dessert area, you cannot always get a full picture of how damaging it can be. I am curious where the O.P.'s car spent it's life and if it was outside much of said life, perhaps "stored" a long period of time in a very sunny area.
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I believe you might discover that the clock was integral part of the Interior Decor Group, so you may not typically see it called out on the Marti if you have that upgrade.
Richard, you are correct - thanks for adding that clarification. John
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Just a thought here but some 67 68 Cougar's had white needles on their clocks. Or.....I have seen some clock hands that have a white base coat that was not completely covered with the orange topcoat (one was a NOS clock that was white only at the round base where it attaches to the mechanism). I think it has been discovered that Ford made just a couple mistakes!!! Just my .02 cents and experience. Paul
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Just a thought here but some 67 68 Cougar's had white needles on their clocks. .............
67 appear to
Some 68 pictures I have use the orange needles but not sure if all of this is XR7 verses base Cougar