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Title: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: 67gt390fb on October 16, 2018, 11:21:08 PM
I have a power steering hose index bracket that came on a HBA-BF ,    7-L-13  power steering pump.  was said to be from an S-code mustang(cannot verify).   it  looks like it will put pressure hose at correct angle.

   It is slightly different from the  68-70 brackets i have seen for sale,  WCC  one here:  https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/store/Search.aspx?SearchTerms=power%20steering%20index%20bracket

is mine just a variation of BB index bracket or ?        mine shown here


Alan
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 17, 2018, 01:04:16 AM
I am skeptical 68 Mustangs used a bracket . I have seen many survivor 68 GT500's and KR's without. I don't know about 390 however I would double check to confirm. The 69 used the bracket with the with the fingers. Mansfield Mustang sells the 69 Bracket with the fingers .http://mansfieldmustang.com/01-26.jpg
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: CharlesTurner on October 17, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
I am skeptical 68 Mustangs used a bracket . I have seen many survivor 68 GT500's and KR's without. I don't know about 390 however I would double check to confirm.

I know on 68 GT350's, the index wasn't used due to the additional hoses for the p/s cooler.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: krelboyne on October 17, 2018, 06:51:23 PM
Definitely two versions. Supplier? Supplier specific to factory?
Small block versions of the 1968 power steering indexing bracket. Similar difference in the forming to the example above.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: krelboyne on October 17, 2018, 06:58:18 PM
I have a power steering hose index bracket that came on a HBA-BF ,    7-L-13  power steering pump.  was said to be from an S-code mustang(cannot verify).   it  looks like it will put hose at correct angle.

   It is slightly different from the  68-70 brackets i have seen for sale,  WCC  one here:  https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/store/Search.aspx?SearchTerms=power%20steering%20index%20bracket

is mine just a variation of BB index bracket or ?        mine shown here


Alan

The part number for that bracket is C8OZ-3C511-B.  Can also be found on 1968 200cu 6 cylinder Mustang and B / C body midsized Ford / Mercury.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2018, 07:34:00 PM
Definitely two versions. Supplier? Supplier specific to factory?

IMHO Likely different suppliers and yes likely one was more predominate over the other (if at all used) based on plant like we see on many other parts.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 17, 2018, 10:30:25 PM
I know on 68 GT350's, the index wasn't used due to the additional hoses for the p/s cooler.
Charles ,I am not sure if the index was used on regular Mustang or not in 68 but the the index is for the upper pressure hose and not the lower return hose that is associated with the PS cooler used on the Shelby's . It would not seem that the return line has anything to do with the use of the index or  not.  If I have missed something let me know . Just my point of view.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2018, 10:40:33 PM
Charles ,I am not sure if the index was used on regular Mustang or not in 68 ....

Might be getting off topic since were veering away from the S code application the OP was asking about. There are a number of small block examples in the unrestored picture thread examples of those.

- 68 Metuchen November Built J code Convertible Unrestored - Picture Thread

- Mid-year 68 San Jose Fastback - Unrestored Picture Thread

- NJ J Code Fastback - AC, PS, C4, Non-fold down - Unrestored Picture Thread

- 68 San Jose 302- Early December 67 build - Unrestored Picture Thread



Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
To the OP request.

Yes it appears they used an index bracket on 390 engines with PS. Don't have a clear picture of the bracket off of a car nor a nice shot of the rear of a correct pump off the car to show the details and the complete shape but do have pictures of 68 S codes with PS and the indexing bracket.

Guess we could check the MPC it might have it identified by a part number but that won't help much in this case.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 17, 2018, 11:04:26 PM
Might be getting off topic since were veering away from the S code application the OP was asking about. There are a number of small block examples in the unrestored picture thread examples of those.

- 68 Metuchen November Built J code Convertible Unrestored - Picture Thread

- Mid-year 68 San Jose Fastback - Unrestored Picture Thread

- NJ J Code Fastback - AC, PS, C4, Non-fold down - Unrestored Picture Thread

- 68 San Jose 302- Early December 67 build - Unrestored Picture Thread
Jeff, your examples are not relevant to the post that Charles made or that I was commenting on. 68 GT350 did not use the same PS hose as a regular Mustang like your examples show.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2018, 11:19:45 PM
Jeff, your examples are not relevant to the post that Charles made or that I was commenting on. 68 GT350 did not use the same PS hose as a regular Mustang like your examples show.

Was not responding to that post of Charles nor your follow up responses or the Shelby specific details:) But instead to two of your posts where you wrote.

I am skeptical 68 Mustangs used a bracket .................


Charles ,I am not sure if the index was used on regular Mustang or not in 68 but the the index is for the upper pressure hose and not the lower return hose that is associated with the PS cooler used on the Shelby's . It would not seem that the return line has anything to do with the use of the index or  not.  If I have missed something let me know . Just my point of view.

I was hoping to help by pointing out where the pictures and threads were located documenting that in response to the two comments above.

I'm in agreement on the Shelby specific detail
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 17, 2018, 11:50:48 PM
Ok,I understand your post now.  Of course the bracket on the small blocks in the picture are different then the Big block/6cyl version the OP was talking about.
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: J_Speegle on October 18, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
Ok,I understand your post now.  Of course the bracket on the small blocks in the picture are different then the Big block/6cyl version the OP was talking about.

Yes the problem/issues of getting off thread. Might try and split off the small block but since the OP appears to have posted (if I understand correctly) a SB bracket it might be woven too tight to untangle :)
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: 67gt390fb on October 18, 2018, 06:55:14 AM
Definitely two versions. Supplier? Supplier specific to factory?
Small block versions of the 1968 power steering indexing bracket. Similar difference in the forming to the example above.

 thanks Krelboyne,  the differences in the small block brackets shown  (in post #4) make me tend to believe mine (shown in original posting) is a variation of the big block bracket (and 68 200 six)
Title: Re: 68 s-code p/s index bracket
Post by: krelboyne on October 18, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
thanks Krelboyne,  the differences in the small block brackets shown  (in post #4) make me tend to believe mine (shown in original posting) is a variation of the big block bracket (and 68 200 six)

Thank you for commenting. My whole point was to show visual examples of the variations of the fork end, for the high pressure line.  ::)