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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: pstone on March 23, 2020, 07:12:43 PM
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I have a 1965 convertible mustang, San Jose with an August build date. I have the original build sheet and window sticker sSee pictures). Can any tell me what the original color of the top would have been. I am the third owner and I bought this back in the 80's with a blue top (see picture). Also any information you can give me regarding the build sheet would be appreciated.
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The "1965 Only" Ford Master Parts Catalog (printed January 1964) notes that "Before 8/17/1964", Black, White and Blue Tops were available, but "After 8/17/1964", only Black, White and Tan Tops were available as Options. The Mustang Sales Brochure printed 4/65, seems to support that, listing only the Black, White and Tan Tops as Options.
Hope this helps.
Bob
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Very very rare to find a San Jose build sheet still in a car. Nice find
I have a 1965 convertible mustang, San Jose with an August build date. I have the original build sheet and window sticker sSee pictures). Can any tell me what the original color of the top would have been. ..........
Best guess based on studies and research done by others would be a black power top
Also any information you can give me regarding the build sheet would be appreciated.
The 66 discussion ("decode buildsheet" found it for me) might be a place to start. Only a little over 200posts to read through ;)
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The "1965 Only" Ford Master Parts Catalog (printed January 1964) notes that "Before 8/17/1964", Black, White and Blue Tops were available, but "After 8/17/1964", only Black, White and Tan Tops were available as Options. The Mustang Sales Brochure printed 4/65, seems to support that, listing only the Black, White and Tan Tops as Options.
I came up with the same conclusion. In addition, the window sticker would have listed the top color "variation", plus the order sheet would have a special six diget order number starting with 71 (like 711234) somewhere.
You got 50 plus years of "what happened" to contend with.
Jim
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Best guess based on studies and research done by others would be a black non-power top
Top type "1" from the build sheet is "Black Power" as shown in the "65 Ford Mustang Illustrated Facts Book".
Jim
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Top type "1" from the build sheet is "Black Power" as shown in the "65 Ford Mustang Illustrated Facts Book".
Jim
Thanks - I correct my post above - read the page too quickly. Took mine from a decoding buck tag data
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Thanks for your feedback everyone. I see that a blue top was offered on 66's. Any chance San Jose would have put the blue 66 top on my car since it was an August build? According to my build sheet I see now that it was scheduled for a black power top (1). Would the bill sheet ever be ignored or could a change be made without changing the build sheet. We are talking the San Jose plant.
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blue on 66?? where do you see that? please reread reply #1.
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I saw the blue top option on a 1966 Ford passenger vehicle order card. Blue power with plastic glass was code Y and Blue with glass was code 5.
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I saw the blue top option on a 1966 Ford passenger vehicle order card. Blue power with plastic glass was code Y and Blue with glass was code 5.
Believe you may be looking at the passenger car order card or form. Looking at a punch card there is no separate section for each body style or model though enter would only be what was available and what is shown on the card had to represent all models in the Ford line. Blue was apparently available on something like full size Fords and maybe Fairlanes
Here is the convertible top section of a 66 Mustang order form
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-230320205420.jpeg)
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Thanks Jeff.
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Just so as not to leave you "hanging", for 1966, the Full Size Fords, Fairlanes and T-Birds offered a Blue Top, but the Mustangs only Black or White. Attached is from the Soft Trim Section of the 1960-68 MPC.
Bob
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Where did you find the buildsheet at? I don’t think I’ve seen one out of San Jose before.
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The top on the car does not appear to be original either. The rear bow finisher is the turnover style instead of 2 piece plastic.
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Here's a reproduction '65 order sheet. Your 'TOPS' section on the build sheet corresponds to the order sheet code of '1', which is black power top.
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Good stuff. Thanks for the attachments. Now I have to decide if I want to go back to the factory black top or keep the color top I purchased it with. The car was pictured in Hot Rod Magazine December 1986 with the blue top. The build sheet was not found be me. It was part of a binder of documents that was passed down from the 1st and 2nd owners. Again, thank you everyone for your input and guidance.
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"only Black, White and Tan Tops were available as Options. "
Tan Tops???
I have never seen a Factory Tan top, nor have I seen it on a '65 or '66 Dealer Order Sheet... This is news to me..
As far as I know, Only Black, White and Blue were Available in '64 1/2 and Early '65. Regular '65 and '66 Production only saw Black and White colored tops from the factory that I've ever seen.
None of the Original Ford IBM ordering cards never even mention Tan as an option...
Any Tan tops that I have even seen including my own cars... I've always thought that they were just Aftermarket.. I hope that he was not referring to "Off-White" as being Tan..
:o)
Tony K.
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Tony : I think you have seen too many early 65's.. Besides the documentation that I noted in Reply No. 1, compare the Order Sheet that Charles Posted in Reply No. 14 (dated Jan 1964), with the one that John (67gta289) Posted several years ago (dated Jun 1964) under the "Buildsheet" Topic. Early shows Blue ; late shows Tan. This is not to say that there were a lot of Tan tops, just that it was one of the choices,
Bob
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The top on the car does not appear to be original either. The rear bow finisher is the turnover style instead of 2 piece plastic.
Charles, can you please post a pic of an original top with the original 2 piece finisher? Thanks.
-Scott
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Some original top pics...
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Some original top pics...
Thank you for that Charles.