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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 - 70 Shelby => Topic started by: cob428 on October 06, 2020, 08:42:57 PM

Title: upper grille support
Post by: cob428 on October 06, 2020, 08:42:57 PM: Is the upper grill bar (support) held to the grill with nuts and washers or are they the same retainer's that hold the grille "racetrack" to the grille? Any pictures would be helpful.
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: 69GT350H on October 06, 2020, 11:07:28 PM: I seem to recall the upper bar having threaded studs to hold the mesh in place. I will have to look and take photos tomorrow unless someone else beats me to it.
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: 69GT350H on October 07, 2020, 02:33:01 PM: The upper grill bar has threaded studs. Mine has hex nuts with the built in washer. Here are some photos for you.
http://www.redshost.com/show/shelbyparts/index001.html
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: Coralsnake on October 07, 2020, 02:57:51 PM: Pretty sure my GT350 has a washer a push ring
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: 69GT350H on October 07, 2020, 03:11:44 PM: Quote from: Coralsnake on October 07, 2020, 02:57:51 PM
Pretty sure my GT350 has a washer a push ring

My coral has square studs and uses the rectangular push on retainers.
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: cob428 on October 07, 2020, 03:57:28 PM: I am trying to determine what is supposed to be there. The Shelby "unique parts catalog" doesn't show it. AMK products catalog shows push on retainers as Coral states but my studs are round and 8-32 thread. I dont see a good picture at all in any of the Unrestored pictures..
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: Coralsnake on October 07, 2020, 07:51:27 PM: I will withdraw my previous statements, my car has a rectangular pal clip on the back
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: 69GT350H on October 07, 2020, 08:02:37 PM: Quote from: Coralsnake on October 07, 2020, 07:51:27 PM
I will withdraw my previous statements, my car has a rectangular pal clip on the back

The rectangular pal clip is on the threaded stud?
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: J_Speegle on October 07, 2020, 08:14:49 PM: Hope this helps. Since when the car was built (verses early cars) this is from a first of April built car at Dearborn. Don't have the completion date at AO Smith

Very different from the race track

What I found on one I disassembled a while back

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-071020191435.jpeg)
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 07, 2020, 11:08:09 PM: Quote from: Coralsnake on October 07, 2020, 07:51:27 PM
I will withdraw my previous statements, my car has a rectangular pal clip on the back
+1 . A rectangular pal clip pushed on the threaded stud is what I typically find on unmolested cars.The push nut/pal clip was not doubt faster and given the where it was at didn't need to hold strong. You can leave the nut or clip off and the top rail still stays in place because it is held in tension by the grill mesh. Given the stud is threaded is why the rectangular clip gets replaced with a hex nut during restoration IMO. The nut is functionally better but not what was typically used by AO Smith is my opinion.
Title: Re: upper grille support
Post by: cob428 on October 08, 2020, 11:45:13 AM: Are the pal clips the same rectangular clips that are on the "Race track" molding that attaches to the grille?